Fishies we have known

[dragonforce]

Ive lost;
1 firefish
1 randalls shrimp goby
1 percula clownfish
1 hi fin shrimp goby
2 sixline wrasses


Half of these were fights between 2 of the fish to death
lost a few to disease I think they had before I bought them.
A few jumped out.

 

[msman825]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8927984#post8927984 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tkeracer619
Did you buy them at petco? Where are you getting the fish.

:lol: :lol: :eek2: :eek2: :eek1:

 

[petoonia]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8927953#post8927953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jbittner
not an attack, just trying to get the info out there. I have never tried them but I am researching it.

Sorry, didnt mean to come across witchy!!!!:rollface: I need to learn to use more smilies

 

[vanmo92]

I've lost 6.

4 chromis (lack of expirience in first month of SW fish keeping).

1 Ocelaris clown (carpet surfed, might have survived but the cat got there before me).

1 devil damsel (carpet surfed).

 

[petoonia]

I never got around to what I've lost. Im on my second go around with having reef tanks. The first one was about 10 years ago. The tank crashed we lost a yellow tang, a black cap basslet, a coral beauty, a mandarin, and a sebae clown. So far with my new set up I havent lost anything, but we've been taking it really slow the 65g has been up for 6 mos. and we only have 2 clowns, and a coral beauty. We are currently cycling a 75g as well, but were gonna go slow with that one too.

 

[JmLee]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8924596#post8924596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drummereef
You knew you were going to get flamed for this thread, right?

Thats exactly what i was going to ask.

 

[rooroo]

Of what I can remember I've lost in 2 years:
1 Lawnmower Blenny (Ignorance on my part, he starved in my tank)
1 Neon Dottyback (not my fault, he got a big lump in his stomach then passed away after a year in my tank)
4 Peppermint Shrimp (due to the dottyback, again ignorance)
1 4 stripe damsel (got bullied by the other 3 damsels)

I also have not bought a ton of fish, but for the most part I now research my purchases before I head to the LFS.

 

[specrn5]

quote:Originally posted by tkeracer619
Did you buy them at petco? Where are you getting the fish.



I've bought fish from petco and they have been some of the healthiest fish. Just don't buy if they look sickly, that is key.

 

[Misled]

The first picture that came to my mind was a cemetary! About loosing the fish to a tank crash, if as you say 2 survived and 9 died, you had 11 fish in a 75 gal, and if you've only been in the hobby 18 months, well you can guess what caused the crash. Well now you have 15 in there, anybody beginning to sense a pattern. IMO for the fish you have, and your experience, your tank at present is way over stocked. I've been in reefs and saltwater for 20 years. I haven't had as many fish as you've lost.

 

[petoonia]

I read the post before, but didnt count the current livestock 15 fish in a 75g. I hope this guy isnt telling the truth, and just posted to stir up some trouble!! If not it wont be long before he is adding all of those fish to his graveyard. I dont understand why people post on RC, but dont bother to educate themselves about reefkeeping.

 

[garvin90]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8929445#post8929445 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JmLee
Thats exactly what i was going to ask.

Yep I knew that when I was drumming this whole thing up. Noones answers surprised me at all. Technically it was "sposed" to be tongue-in-cheek but what can you do?

Peter is completely right though, when I started out I didnt research anything. I pretty much was relying on my LFS' to help me out and such.

I did have multiple tanks previously so yes not all of these fishes were in the same systems together. Sorry I know that is a BIG misscomunication error and does help in establishing a cause/effect scenario. I had at one time 3 tanks but broke them all down to just the main reef. The lions and angler had a 40 breeder(now my sump/refuge). I do realize that 15 is somewhat excessive on the fish amount in 1 75gal which is why they all arent up top. Some are taking up space in the fuge to let the bigger fishes have the open swimming room. The fuge isnt seperarted by baffles either. Its a open swimming space for the most part.

As far as why on the qt fish, the hippo died while being cured for ick and the copperband failed to eat anything. I still am unsure am the tangoroas because they werent in the main display when they were transferred from qt, I put them in my open fuge. If they had been I could attribute it to the orange spots agression.

I could(like someone pointed out) keep trying to explain away these things but those are just excuses of course.

I do now know that it is way to many fishes to have gone through entirely.

I think Ive researched more in the past 7 mos than I had ever done in the past 4 years about this hobby. Yep I said 4 years. I had thought about it for 2 1/2 and then started back in august of '05. Back then I didnt know there was 4 other good LFS(of which I now work) in the area so I relied on a petco person back then.

And no btw, Im definitely not trying to brag about "hey, look at me and my pile of fish!" If I was I shouldnt even be allowed to drink water. Looking at it from a bystanders point of view it does come across that way though doesnt it?

 

[Pico Keeper]

Ive been reefing for a year now. Do date I have lost 5 fish.

2 Pearly Jawfish, one jumped one was beat up by a mean blenny
1 Watchman Goby - Carpet surfing
1 Citron Goby - Somehow got sucked into a filter
1 False Perc - Just died, no idea how

That's 5 fish in total. I have 7 more that have survived with no problems. Carpet surfing has been the biggest culprit so far. I dont think I will ever loose another fish again with the experience I now have. I have NEVER EVER EVER lost a coral, except one very sick Digitata frag that was RTN all over and I got for free.

 

[anthworks]

I am so careful when I buy a fish. I feel that we are taking them from the ocean we should put them in the best possible environment for there well being. I think so people buy salt water fish like disposable ornaments that can be replaced when they die... Hey lose a fish just buy another one to replace it. Its sad and makes me think what kind of hobby am i in

 

[bubbaOPPD]

Instead of constructive criticism to help the guy this thread turns into let me get on my soapbox and chastise the poor reefer with less knowledge. Like you have never done anything stupid in your life, oh yeah lets also brag about how few fish we have lost and give excuses why the fish dying wasn't my fault...I thought this is the reason for this place to disseminate knowledge so stuff like this doesn't happen.

 

[Littleg182]

In my year and a half I have lost a total of 5 fish

2 False Percs - Condy ate one i think, the other one found his way to the sump and went through a maze then to the pump.
1 Manderin - Starved from the fish store, didn't research.
1 Saddle Puffer - This one was sad, My favorite fish. I had him for about 5 months and somehow he made it over the overflow gaurd and into the sump at night. I swear the other fish told him that if he stopped the pump then they would all be free. Evil fish!
1 Baby Powder Blue - My mistake for buying him. I didn't ask to see him eat at the fish store and he never ended up eating anything. He was also a little fammished from the store.

Not to bad though. Im currently keeping a Potters Angel which started eating flakes last week, a scooter blenny that I've had for about a year from PETCO! boooohisss I know, but he was tiny and fat and very cool, and 1 True Perc and a False Perc (Juvies).

Some other mistakes
Pair of maroon clowns - Traded in for credit, made my sand into mountains and knocked things over.
Snowflake eel - Very dumb fish, blind and no respect for the tank! Didnt bother any of my other fish though.

 

[sunfish11]

In almost 3 years I have lost -

JJ - (my lawnmower blenny) - don't know why

DipSH*T- a stupid male false perc that kept trying to pull a nemo until he suceeded. He kept jumping into the back compartment of my cube until he finally got in there and (the pebble did not jam the impeller) with a temp pump and got chopped to smitherenes. His mate was happily feasting on him when I found the remains.

Stalker - My hawkfish of over a year. I moved him to my 210gal without a top and the cat brought him to me while I was watching TV.

Un-named Achilles Tang - I bought him unhealthy and he lasted 2 days in QT. LFS gave me credit and I got my Naso instead.

Chalky the Chalk bass - Committed suicide. He had been depressed for a long time and couldn't be talked down off the ledge.

Every time a fish dies I question the hobby because I love the reefs and don't like to see such a precious resource replaced like a new roll of toilet paper by reefers. The only non-selfish reason for reefkeeping I can think of is that people love what they know and If they never have a chance to see a coral or reef fish they are less likely to protect it.

What bothers me is when I see a post like -

guys, I need HELP! I don't know what is going on...My mandarin fish is dying and I don't know why. This is my sixth mandarin and if this one dies I will only try 6 more times and then I am through with them. What should I do? etc. etc. etc.



Lisa

 

[BiggySmalls]

did u get a top or somehow put somethin on the 210g so your cat doesnt bring another fish to you?

how much did the hawk cost you?

 

[sunfish11]

Na, I didn't put a top on it. I did rig some eggcrate to prevent all but the most determined jumpers.

I want to say the hawk was $30 or something. It's been awhile so I can't remeber exactly.

Lisa

 

[vessxpress1]

<And those parameters?

SG 1.024
temp 81
calcium 390aprox.
nitrite 0
nitrate 0
ammonia 0
phosphates 5 or it was 2 weeks ago and thats 5.0 not 0.5
Why?? i have no idea and I have a big fuge too although using straight tap water for the longest time may not have helped it. [/B]

:eek2: Did anybody else notice this? 0.2 is considered bad in a marine aquarium. Maybe your test kit has gone bad? That's hard to believe. Have you just tested your tap water by itself? Cities purposely add phosphates to their water to help keep pipes from corroding. The phosphates coming out of my tap are 2 ppm. Whenever you do a water change with that, you're just adding more. A lot of marine organisms can't handle that. If I were you, I would slow down, buy an RO/DI unit or RO/DI from the store, a ton of phosphate removal media and start from there. I seriously hope you don't plan on trying corals any time in the near future because I don't know any that would survive your tank right now. Instead of throwing away another couple grand on fish, spend 200 on a good RO/DI unit and be done with it. That alone would probably solve half of your problems.

Do you have problems with algae? If you don't, you will have it covering everything soon. My phosphates are at 0 and I can't get bryopsis to stop growing in my tank.

 

[sunfish11]

Do you have problems with algae? If you don't, you will have it covering everything soon. My phosphates are at 0 and I can't get bryopsis to stop growing in my tank.

Supposedly your phosphates are 0 BECAUSE you have bryopsis in your tank. It is absorbing it as fast as it accumulates.

I did notice the 5 phos but I didn't know that phosphates kill fish even at that level. Corals don't like it I know, but please show a link to an article that says that 5 ppm phosphates will kill fish. I yearn to learn and stand to be corrected if I am wrong.

Lisa