Flame angel not looking too hot.

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BigGimp77

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We just got him yesterday. Put him in the QT and he seemed fine for the most part. He swam all around the QT. We tried to feed him a bit yesterday and today with no luck.

Today he is mostly swimming directly under my over flow box. I also noticed some white blotches on him today that I didn't see yesterday. It almost looks like dead skin that you'd get after you've been sun burned.

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All other fish in the QT are doing fine. I've seen no bickering or fighting between the other fish. All other fish have eaten.

The only difference between yesterday and today is that I treated with Prazi Pro last night.

Any idea's on what could be going on?
 
I can't diagnose this for you, but i suggest you move this thread to the fish disease forum, someone there may very well recognize your problem. good luck
 
sporto0 said:
I can't diagnose this for you, but i suggest you move this thread to the fish disease forum, someone there may very well recognize your problem. good luck
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I have a thread opened there already. No response yet. Figured I'd try here also to get a response.
 
I would run carbon to pull the prozi out and worry more about getting it to eat first. Prozi seems to mess with there appetite.

Edit: and be very cautious about ammonia levels flame angels are very sensitive to it.
 
briankmarsh1980 said:
I would run carbon to pull the prozi out and worry more about getting it to eat first. Prozi seems to mess with there appetite.

Edit: and be very cautious about ammonia levels flame angels are very sensitive to it.
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I will double check the amm levels. He was picking at rock work and glass last night so I wasn't too concerned with him not eating.
 
It seems similar to ich. Does hypo work the same? That is easier for me to do currently. However, I can set up a hospital tank with copper asap if that's what is needed.
 
If it is velvet treat with copper ASAP as stated above. Not hypo

And if you have other fish with it I would treat them as well
 
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Flame is in hospital tank. The other fish that were in the QT seem fine currently. I will leave them in there for now and monitor them closely. I will eventually treat them with hypo as that is standard Qt procedure for me.

I would move all to my hospital tank but it is only 20g with no sump and thus would have difficulty maintaining parameters.
 
like someone said before, prazi has a huge effect on appetite. I realized this was true especially on flames. During the entire time i had my flame on it, she would not eat. I stopped the treatment after a week due to being afraid of starvation and lack of vitamins killing her. The next day she was off prazi she ate like a pig, so i loaded her up with food for 2-3 days and put her back on the treatment (i was suspecting flukes that is why i was so set on the prazi treatment).

I'm not advocating taking her off prazi if you think that prazi will treat whatever you think you have (hard to tell what it could potentially be from the pic you have). You have to make a judgement call IMO, if the fish aint eating for 5-6-7 days you may be in serious trouble on the nutrient side of things. But if it looks like the disease is going to kill them and prazi is ur best medicine to combat it then keep the fish on it for as long as you think is safe. Its a tough fish to keep because they are more sensitive to any nonideal conditions, medicines, dietary needs, etc. Make sure you do ur best in providing it live rock algae and/or nori.

And like someone else said pay extremely extremely close attention to ammonia and nitrites. I feel flame angels will sense them sometimes before my api test kit senses them....
 
I was treating prazi pro in the QT as a normal preventative, not because he was showing these signs. I checked amm and it was 0.


Seeing that the fish was getting worse (it had moved from under the overflow box [about 2/3 the way up the tank] to hanging out at the top of the tank) and I had no other leads I went with velvet. Sounds like Velvet would give a fish difficulty breathing and make them become lethargic.

Unfortunately the fish didn't make it. I transferred him to a hospital tank and dosed cupramine a little bit at a time over the corse of 2-3 hours till I got a reading of .25.

He was alive up until 6am from what I could tell. Woke up at 7am and nothing.

I just hope the other fish in the QT remain ok. Not sure whether to give them cupramine treatment or just leave them be for now.
 
Sounds like you did all the right things... hopefully the other fish aren't affected by whatever it was. :(
 
It was/is Brooklynella. My coral beauty now has it was well. It's 10pm and no fish store is open to try and get some formalin. WONDERFUL....


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