Flatworms everywhere oh my!

[CleveYank]

RE: Sixlines

RE: Sixlines

Since most folks do not even worry about their eco impact (yes I understand our hobby can render eco impact concerns void), putting organisms in a closed reef system to control other there in must be done with alot of consderation.

Due to possible outcomes of the subject POSSIBLE control aspect of certain introductions as with yellow, 4 line and 6 line coris that usually outgrow and or develop behaviors counter to CAPTIVE REEF HARMONY I have always felt that their introduction to counter improper or lack there of quarantine and or last resort usage in place of proper quarantine usage falling under the category of stupid or at minimum less than careful reefkeepers.


I do not believe wholly and fully that your inability to utilize proper quarantine and or dipping methods should make it a viable solution to use an animal that may render itself through it's own natural maturation behaviors unfit to stay in your system because you did not prevent the issue that made you feel you needed to put a fish that will become unfit for your system in it because you didn't do your prevent to stop a possible parasite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RokleM]

CleveYank, while I'm sure you have some points in there, I re-read it multiple times and frankly am not sure what you're attempting to say. The OP stated QT was used. Many of us have suggested NOT using a four or sixline due to issues with potential behavior issues with those fish. In researching yellow coris wrasses, I wasn't able to find any reported behavioral issues. I also have had great luck with mine.

If you want to discuss impact, I'm somewhat confused however that you're ok with using a chemical treatment in the tank which kills or harms numerous beneficial organisms. On the other hand, you are highly against introducing a fish that may or may not have behavioral issues (that have been covered already, and one recommended and OP is looking into that's safe by all accounts). Reading through the threads, there have been a number of major casualties with the levasole treatment, but also many successes. While I applaud your efforts on this potential cure for the issue, it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

No offense.... but beyond calling or implying someone was stupid, I don't fully understand what you were attempting to say beyond what has already been stated. If that was your attempt to agree with the comments already made, thanks. If not, please clarify so we can understand.

 

[Crawf71]

All I can say is thanks for the input .

Again not sure how the flat worms or flat worm eggs made it through QT.

As far as adding something, i think you're right it should be done with consideration. But again, I think adding chemicals should be done with more consideration. Like RokleM stated, who knows what good organisms that it kills.

I still haven't choose the road I'm going down. I will most likely be placing and order for a yellow coris from liveaquaria.

Thanks again for all the input guys.

 

[CleveYank]

CleveYank, while I'm sure you have some points in there, I re-read it multiple times and frankly am not sure what you're attempting to say. The OP stated QT was used. Many of us have suggested NOT using a four or sixline due to issues with potential behavior issues with those fish. In researching yellow coris wrasses, I wasn't able to find any reported behavioral issues. I also have had great luck with mine.

If you want to discuss impact, I'm somewhat confused however that you're ok with using a chemical treatment in the tank which kills or harms numerous beneficial organisms. On the other hand, you are highly against introducing a fish that may or may not have behavioral issues (that have been covered already, and one recommended and OP is looking into that's safe by all accounts). Reading through the threads, there have been a number of major casualties with the levasole treatment, but also many successes. While I applaud your efforts on this potential cure for the issue, it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

No offense.... but beyond calling or implying someone was stupid, I don't fully understand what you were attempting to say beyond what has already been stated. If that was your attempt to agree with the comments already made, thanks. If not, please clarify so we can understand.

Using an animal that may or may not be useful and may or may not be a true removal of a parasite that could have been prevented in the 1st place and then crap shooting whether the animal will remove the parasite that could have been prevented which COULD result in only putting the PREVENTABLE parasite at bay (3 out of 3 folks that told me thier 6 lines stopped their planaria problem on resulted in giving me planarai that my dip and quarantine caught) just provides a bandaid on the issue. And outside of buying sea hairs and snails (pick your variety) other aninmals being bought SOLELY for parasite and or parasite removal attempt which is emperical at best is IN MY OPINION irresponsible and morally bankrupt to a FINITE resource and dear hobby. And if the hobbyist in question buys any animal for a cover up of his or her screw up then yes, In my OPINION that is a STUPID HOBBYIST. Clear Enough For Ya?

Possibly nuking your existing subset of already captive animals which have already beaten astronomical odds of survival is different from buying animals which are known for being possibly NOT 100% cures and gambling whether they will be compatible down the road is also questionable responsible hobbyist behavior. If you cannot or are not sure you can keep it down the road then you owe it to the finite resource and the hobby and the environment as a whole NOT TO BUY IT. And if you do and do not know or have the intent or ability to insure of the intended livestock longterm care and longevity then you damage me, my earth, the oceanic livestock and our hobby. In doing so knowingly or not, makes that person STUPID. Again, Clear Enough For Ya?

 

[Norm R]

I have had 3 yellow coris in my tank for a number of years. They are great reef fish and are more than happy to make a delicacy of any flatworm, regardless of how they make their way into the system. Based on the odds of any given fish recognizing extended longevity in the wild, I think my 3 are pretty darned lucky to be in a closed sytem, absent natural predators. I'll even go out on a limb and say they feel harmonious. They would probably be thrilled if I didn't dip/QT prior to placing corals into my system.

IMO, yellow coris from Live Aquaria = good choice Crawf71.