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I am not the OP. Do I believe you've been using Tunzes for fifteen years yes. Do I believe individual Tunzes last 15+ years in operation, no, I don't.
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I am not the OP. Do I believe you've been using Tunzes for fifteen years yes. Do I believe individual Tunzes last 15+ years in operation, no, I don't.
Drone
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I personally have had 4 vortechs. 3 40's and 1 10. All of them have failed within 2 years. Mostly different problems. I believe 2 were power supplies, 1 controller, 2 wetsides, 1 dryside. At $75 per wet side I licked my wounds, made 2 1/2 working units and sold them. I bought an RW15 and a PP20 and haven't looked back. I don't have 2 years on them yet but at $68 and $80 I'll replace them every year if I have to. I won't be paying Vortech $350 for a piece of equipment that is inferior or a best comparable to a $70 one. Granted the footprint is smaller but that is countered by the ability to aim it. It adds no noticeable heat to the system and is much quieter.
I can't say much about the Gyres. but I can say that I have as much movement in my 90 with an RW-15 as I've seen with the Gyre 130's
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Rich1Reef
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I have used a lot of different pumps and after getting my Gyre I will never look back. I even bought another. It does take more time to clean than most but once you do it a few times it's cake. The amount of ways it can be mounted and used is great. Not saying it's better than the others I just wouldn't use anything else as my personal preference.
Haha, a religious war about water pumps! Put me in the Tunze camp. I have used Tunze Nanostreams and now streams since 2006. My original pair of 6025 Nanostreams that were in my 75G corner became unreliable (wouldn't turn back on after being turned off without shaking them) a problem that was corrected in an updated design. Despite that they were many years away from being in warranty, Roger gave me a very large discount on a pair of 6105s to replace them. No doubt all the different types of pumps work well enough but there is a reason that Tunze has been around a long time in this industry. Same with Eheim....
FirstContact
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A pair of 6155s or 6255s will cost you around $850 - $900; a pair of Jebao PP15s or PP20s will run you around $150 - $160. If Tunzes last so long how come they don't come with a 5 year warranty like Sicce? Obviously, if everyone is getting 8 years out of each and every Tunze powerhead, you could afford to have a warranty guarantee their product for at least 6 years at no cost to Tunze with plenty of room to spare? So, why doesn't Tunze do that? Because they'd lose a lot of money on all the ones that failed before 6 years. If I purchase my Jebaos from the right place I get a 1 year warranty and my Jebaos won't fall into the sand bed and disconnect from their magnetic base if I accidentally touch them or adjust them inside the tank. Oh, and a pair of Jebaos costs around $150. :wavehand:
WLachnit
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I use both Vortech and Gyres. I like them both for different reasons but, the downside with Gyre is that they are much louder than the Vortechs. I have also had better reliability with the Vortechs as well. I would recommend Vortech MP40s for your dimensions as an earlier poster suggested.
david.faik
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Flow options what would you choose
Vortechs have a weird footprint: namely less in your tank but big drivers stuck on the glass. Can't be too near the waterline or you'll get air bubbles. If you can stick them on the glass not in the view great, keeps heat out of the tank. If not they are an eyesore, and you have the wires to cable around *outside* the enclosure/tank. Lastly they don't react well to splashing.
The control via the $100 eco link is great, as is pressing "feed" on your iPhone or Android. They are very expensive and will not text or e-mail to say the RF connection is down or the pump is off. They are relatively loud, not great in a bedroom or office. The quiet drive makes little improvement on old models to noise. The customer service is great.
The gyres have the best broad flow. By far. You can set two on one controller (Maxspect only) and one power plug. Reducing power plugs always becomes an issue. Maxspect controller has a hanger that can be screwed into wood. Jebao are light stick on. Ecotech controllers come with stickers but they are too heavy for them, so budget for mounts also (yet more $$$)
The new Maxspect ones come with spare propellers and a gauze sock to keep snails and other beasties out that can damage the propellers. You can place them very close to the top of the water, so the footprint is minimal. Verdict is out on reliability, I think. So don't buy 2nd hand! The Jebao versions don't have the gauze sock, but maybe these can be bought separately (Maxspect sock fits Jebao), and don't have spare propellers. That said you can pick up a CP40 for $100 and upgrade later to Maxspect if you love it. I did that, but still run the Jebao in another tank.
A Tunze / Vortech on growing pulse will get more detritus in suspension than the gyre. You could buy just one for that function. You probably don't want that setting on all the time, just as cleaning up for an hour or so.
If I was starting again I'd go with one of the gyres. I speak from experience of all the pumps just mentioned, so not simply recycling comments.
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Vortechs have a weird footprint: namely less in your tank but big drivers stuck on the glass. Can't be too near the waterline or you'll get air bubbles. If you can stick them on the glass not in the view great, keeps heat out of the tank. If not they are an eyesore, and you have the wires to cable around *outside* the enclosure/tank. Lastly they don't react well to splashing.
The control via the $100 eco link is great, as is pressing "feed" on your iPhone or Android. They are very expensive and will not text or e-mail to say the RF connection is down or the pump is off. They are relatively loud, not great in a bedroom or office. The quiet drive makes little improvement on old models to noise. The customer service is great.
The gyres have the best broad flow. By far. You can set two on one controller (Maxspect only) and one power plug. Reducing power plugs always becomes an issue. Maxspect controller has a hanger that can be screwed into wood. Jebao are light stick on. Ecotech controllers come with stickers but they are too heavy for them, so budget for mounts also (yet more $$$)
The new Maxspect ones come with spare propellers and a gauze sock to keep snails and other beasties out that can damage the propellers. You can place them very close to the top of the water, so the footprint is minimal. Verdict is out on reliability, I think. So don't buy 2nd hand! The Jebao versions don't have the gauze sock, but maybe these can be bought separately (Maxspect sock fits Jebao), and don't have spare propellers. That said you can pick up a CP40 for $100 and upgrade later to Maxspect if you love it. I did that, but still run the Jebao in another tank.
A Tunze / Vortech on growing pulse will get more detritus in suspension than the gyre. You could buy just one for that function. You probably don't want that setting on all the time, just as cleaning up for an hour or so.
If I was starting again I'd go with one of the gyres. I speak from experience of all the pumps just mentioned, so not simply recycling comments.
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