Frag swap bonus round rules

[Auntbeez]

BONUS ROUND RULES

There will be two types of bonus rounds at the swap. The first is the tier one corals (EF1), for corals that qualify as true rare/exceptional frags. The second type of bonus round is tier two (EF2) frags. These are corals that are outstanding and gorgeous but not quite up to the standards of tier one. See pre-approved list below.

Bonus round tickets will be issued at the frag check-in table.
For every 3 tier one frags, you will receive one EF1 bonus ticket.
For every 3 tier two frags, you will receive one EF2 bonus ticket.

They can be the same coral or 3 different corals as long as they are on the pre-approved tier one or tier two list.
* There is NO LIMIT on how many bonus round tickets you may have.

Picking rounds are timed and will be as follows:
Bonus EF1a, EF1b, EF2a, EF2b,
Round 1 A, B, C, D, E, F
Round 2 F, E, D, C, B, A
Round 3 A, B, C, D, E, F
Round 4 F, E, D, C, B, A

Bonus round will work like this:
The first 2 groups are EF1 bonus picks, group 3 &4 are EF2 bonus picks. Tickets will be shown at entrance and collected at exit. 1 ticket/1 frag pick.
-Group1 (EF1a) You must have at least two EF1 tickets to pick in this round. You will be allowed to use one EF1 ticket /one pick.
-Group2 (EF1b) You may use up to 3 EF1 tickets, 1pick per ticket. All picks must be made in the allotted time.
-Group3 (EF2a) You must have at least two EF2 tickets or one EF1 ticket to pick in this round. You will be allowed to use one EF1 or EF2 ticket/one pick.
-Group4 (EF1b) You may use up to 3 EF1 or EF2 tickets, 1pick per ticket. All picks must be made in the allotted time.


Anyone still holding tickets after the bonus round may use 1 ticket each in the general rounds. That means if you have a ticket you may pick one frag for your regular pick and one for the ticket (exit with 2 frags) for that round. Because there is no limit on how many tickets you may have, there is a slim chance you will not be able to use all your tickets. Number of rounds is determined by how many frags are checked in. You are guaranteed at least 3 rounds of regular picking.

 

[Auntbeez]

sorry, group4 is (EF2b)

 

[iriejp1]

That sounds very complex...lol. Will there be a round picking translator on hand?? (j/k)

 

[mikid]

ef1

ef1

so if you only have 1 ef1 ticket you cant partake in the first group 1 pick....?.....mike

 

[boviac]

Yeah - confusing and ???? I'm all for rewarding those who bring in EF. But watching four picks with people picking up to eight frags before us powh-folk get a chance to pick - just seems to send the wrong message, IMHO. Alas, I'm happy to go and have frags ready!

I know it's hard to satisfy all parties and it's easy to sit on the sides and say, 'why did you do that?' I do apprecitate all the work it took to this point, especially to come up with that seemingly complex set of EF rules, and am looking forward to a good and fun swap. I am interested to see how this one works out.

Thanks to the entire 2010 MARS SWAP Committee.

 

[boviac]

so if you only have 1 ef1 ticket you cant partake in the first group 1 pick....?.....mike

That's the way I read it. With only one EF1 ticket, one would get to pick in round EF1b. I beleive this way it encourages people to bring more rare corals if they really want to take advantage of the EF portion of the swap.

 

[RonMidtownStomp]

It's not 8 frags in four rounds, it's 4, right?

 

[RonMidtownStomp]

And for each of those four, there should be 8 more EF corals waiting.

 

[Auntbeez]

That sounds very complex...lol. Will there be a round picking translator on hand?? (j/k)

It is really not that hard, but we'll make every effort to make sure everyone understands.

so if you only have 1 ef1 ticket you cant partake in the first group 1 pick....?.....mike

That is correct, you must have at least two EF1 tickets to pick in group1 (EF1a).

 

[Auntbeez]

Yeah - confusing and ???? I'm all for rewarding those who bring in EF. But watching four picks with people picking up to eight frags before us powh-folk get a chance to pick - just seems to send the wrong message, IMHO. Alas, I'm happy to go and have frags ready!

Sorry, It is not meant to be confusing.
In theory someone could pick up to 8 frags in the first 4 rounds. However in order to do that they would have to bring 24 EF frags. That means after the bonus rounds are done, there is still 16 EF frags waiting on the table for the regular rounds.
I think that gives people a pretty good chance to get a nice coral even in the later rounds.

 

[Paulca916]

:spin2:
So I bring 9 EF1 frag's I can pick in first round.
Then Second round using my last 2 tickets ?
So I get 3 EF1 frags ?
Then bring 3 more none EF1 or EF2 frags to pick in the normal rounds ?
Sorry I'm trying to see if I understand this

 

[VacavilleFC3S]

i agree, thats unneccessarily complicated.

 

[boviac]

Thanks Auntbeez! I realized shortly after that post when I reread and did a DOH! Yes, 24 EF1 frags to get to pick the max 8 frags in the first four bonus rounds.

I like it. Somewhat confusing still yes, but I like it.

 

[Paulca916]

OK another question....................
Where is the list of EF1 and EF2 corals ?
I found the aproved list on MARS site but there are only a few corals ?
At one time I thought there was a longer list.
I could be wrong since I don't follow any of this stuff............

 

[RonMidtownStomp]

The list seems pretty long to me. I like the format also. The EF rounds will be over quickly and they will encourage people to bring a lot of nice stuff, hopefully.

Ron

 

[bluenassarius]

Yeah - confusing and ???? I'm all for rewarding those who bring in EF. But watching four picks with people picking up to eight frags before us powh-folk get a chance to pick - just seems to send the wrong message, IMHO. Alas, I'm happy to go and have frags ready!

I know it's hard to satisfy all parties and it's easy to sit on the sides and say, 'why did you do that?' I do apprecitate all the work it took to this point, especially to come up with that seemingly complex set of EF rules, and am looking forward to a good and fun swap. I am interested to see how this one works out.

Thanks to the entire 2010 MARS SWAP Committee.

lol, i was confused at first :hammer: a few ppl contacted me saying they are confused about it. someone asked me why a voted coral that was voted non ef made it to ef status. i told em, i'm not part of the frag swap committee. putting together one of these events is alot of work. i commend the people who put in their time to make it happen.

 

[RonMidtownStomp]

I understand the list length confusion. The list you say, Mike, in in addition to this list:

http://forums.marineaquarist.org/index.php?tid=3179&title=Pre-approved_EF_List

The list you saw was just the compiled voting results. I think the voting process was overall a success and saved a tremendous amount of judging work. Somebody probably made a fair judgement call for that one coral given it's large number of EF1 votes. Placing it into EF2 was probably very correct. I think we could make an allowance for that in the voting rules at future swaps. At the moment, I think it was the right decision. It wasn't me, though

 

[Auntbeez]

Here is the pre-approved list including the newly added ones that were voted on.
The Captain America Paly's were placed in EF 2 because of the number of EF1&EF2 votes out weighted the Not EF votes. The committee decided this was fair.

Approved Ef Corals (1st Tier)

SPS
20k Lokani--3/4-1"
Alt Purple Simplex--1/2"
Aquascene Echinata --1/2"
Atl Shades Of Fall Acro--1/2"
Icefire Echinata--1/2"
Karl's Candlelight 1"
Lime In The Sky-- 1"
ORA Blue Voodoo--3/4-1"
ORA Borealis--1 Inch
ORA German Blue Polyp Acro—3/4"
ORA Hawkins Echinata--1+ Inch
ORA Pearlberry Acro--3/4-1"
ORA Red Planet -- 3/4-1”
ORA Roscoes Blue Acro--3/4-1"
Oregon Tort--1/2 Inch
Pink Lemonade--1"
Purple Monster--1/4”
Sandollar’s Blue Matrix--1/2"
Tyree Blood-Red Eyes Cyphastrea--3/4”
Tyree LE 500 Efflo--3/4”
Uwp "Glowstick" Acro--1+ Inch
BPrestwo Blue Matrix --1”
Pink Jade… --1"
Mr. Ugly Red Prostrata… --1"
ORA Joe the Coral….- 3/4-1”

Chalice (1 eye is the going frag rate usually on chalices.)
Area 51 Chalice…
Atl Alien Eye Chalice…
Atl Golden Eye Chalice…
Bazooka Joe Chalice
Bubble Gum Moster Chalice…
Darth Maul Chalice…
Emerald Mummy Eye Chalice…
Exotic Reef’s Rastafarian Chalice
Miami Hurricane Chalice…
Orange Sherbert Chalice
Rmrjwieger’s Watermelon Chalice
The Coral Oasis Volcano Chalice
Tropicorium Grape Watermelon Chalice…
Tyree LE Pink And Blue Chalice
Tyree LE Pink Watermelon Chalice…
Tyree LE Rainbow Delight Chalice…
Tyree Red Watemelon Chalice…
Ultimates Watermelon Chalice…
YR Eye Tyrant Chalice…
Joshua's Treasure…(2 eyes)
RAH Hot Pink Lips chalice
RAH Seedless Watermelon Chalice -
RAH Pink Cadillac Chalice -
Hot Tamale Chalice - Vivid Aquariums-
RAH Seedless Watermelon Chalice-
PurpleUp’s Pink Chalice
PurpleUp’s Pink&Blu Chalice
scottyreef: Razzle Rainbow chalice -
original mummy eye
golden galaxy chalice
Moses Hot Pink Chalice
cheeries jubilee chalice

Montipora (suggested size at least 3/4”)
AE Pink Cadillac Monti…3/4”
Copps Reverse Sunset Monti…3/4”
Copps Vesuvius Monti…3/4”
Orenji Monti Danae…3/4”
FNF "RedBug Monti …3/4”

LPS
Ice Blue Leptastrea--1” Square
Mycedium Robokaki…1-2 eyes
Tyree War Coral: W/ Linage--4 Heads
Dendrophlia-1 head
Super walmart micromussa... w/3 heads
Dollar tree micromussa.... w/3 heads
FNF Sunset Acans… (2 heads

Favia
AE Baby’s Breath Favia--2 Heads
AE Eye Of Jupiter Favia--2 Heads
AE Martian Moon Favia--2 Heads
Dragon’s Revenge Favia--2 Heads
Pink & Purle Pillow favia--2 Heads
Tyree Dragon Eye Montastrea--2 Heads
Tyree Dragon Soul Favia--2 Heads
Tyree War and Peace Favia--2 Heads
Aussie Reverse Prism Favia-- ( 2 Heads)
Mutated MeteiorShower favia
Gold Dust Favi



Zoas/Palys
Atl Valentines Day Massacre--3+Polyps
Darth Maul Palys--3+ polyps
Purple People Eater Palys--1+ Polyps
Rastas--2+ Polyps
Rose Nebula Zoanthids--5 Polyps
Everlasting Gobstoppers…. (2 polyps),
Tyree Armageddon2 Palys


Pink Yuma





Approved Ef Corals (2nd Tier)

Sps
30k Lokani--3/4”
Acropora Insignis--1+ Inch
ATL Rainbow Sherbert Acro

ATL Tar Heals Stag--1” Inch
Garf's Purple Bonsai (At Least 1”)
Greg Hiller's Aquadelight 1"
LE Bali Tricolor--1+ Inch
Mars Lokani--1+ Inch
ORA Purple Plasma--1+ Inch
Pink Watermelon Acro--1+ Inch
Radioactive Tuneus 3/4”
Rainbow Milli - 1"+
Tyree Ponape Torch--1+ Inch
Yellow Stinger
ORA Bird Of Paradise:
ROAB Digi (1 inch)
scottyreef: Long Arm Deepwater
scottyreef: YellowJacket Acro

Montipora
Atl Pink Polyp Flower Petal Monti--1.5”
Atl Strawberry Patch Monti--1.5”
Eric's Chille Pepper Monti --3/4”Sq
Incredible Hulk Monti--3/4”Sq
LE Sunset Monti--3/4”Sq
LE Superman Monti--3/4”Sq
Tyree (Baby)Blue Polyp Flower Petal--1.5”
Tyree AE Cebuensis(Bloody Mary Monti)--3/4”Sq
Tyree LE Rainbow Monti--3/4”Sq
Tyree LE Undata--3/4”Sq
Orange Montipora Sotosa (3/4 inch)
Sandollars Pink Polyp Cap (3/4 inch)
AE seasons greetings monti… (3/4 inch)
pokerstar monti…-(3/4 inch)

Lps
Blasto Merletti--7 Heads
Acan Lords--1+ inch
Duncans--5 Heads
Meteor Shower Cyphastrea--3/4”
Minefield Cyphastrea--3/4”
Spiderman Leptastrea 3/4”
Cyphastrea Decadia:
Aussie Micro (5 heads)

Chalice
Moonwalker Chalice-- 1” Square
Mycedium Silver Light--3/4”
Lemon Lime Chalice - T2 3/4”
ReefReady AlienEye Chalice…T2 1” Square

Favia
Christmas Favia --1+ Inch
Favites Flexuosa (Reverse Prism) --1+ Inch
Prism Favia--1+ Inch
scottyreef: GrapeJuice Lime Favia (>9heads) - T1

Zoas/Palys
Armor Of God Palys--7+ Polyps
ATL Blue Eyed Devils -– 5+ Polyps)
Bam Bam Zoas--7+ Polyps
Candy Apple Pink--5+ Polyp Min
Candy Apple Reds--4+Polyps)
Cat Eye Zoos--5+ Polyp Min
Devils Armor Palys--5+ Polyps
LE True Safecrackers--5+ Polyps
Lunar Eclipse--5+ Polyps
Mohawks--5+ Polyps
Nuclear Green Palys--5+ Polyps
Tyree Blue Eyed Girl Zoas -- 5+ Polyp
WhoDah Unnatainable Paly: T2 (2 Polyps)
Purple Death Palys-- 5 Polyps T2
Joker Palys—5 polyps T2
Angry Hornets - 5+ polyps T2
Captain America Paly's
pink elephants
Orange Palys

Softies (NO FRESH CUT)
Blue Xeina-Cespitularia--2” encrusted.
Tyree Neon Green Toadstool--1.5” encrusted
Orange yumas (1 polyp)

Disapproved
Miami Orchid Stag
Red ring Joker zoa's

 

[Paulca916]

I understand the list length confusion. The list you say, Mike, in in addition to this list:

http://forums.marineaquarist.org/index.php?tid=3179&title=Pre-approved_EF_List

The list you saw was just the compiled voting results. I think the voting process was overall a success and saved a tremendous amount of judging work. Somebody probably made a fair judgement call for that one coral given it's large number of EF1 votes. Placing it into EF2 was probably very correct. I think we could make an allowance for that in the voting rules at future swaps. At the moment, I think it was the right decision. It wasn't me, though

Thank you Ron that's the list I was looking for......

Here is the pre-approved list including the newly added ones that were voted on.
The Captain America Paly's were placed in EF 2 because of the number of EF1&EF2 votes out weighted the Not EF votes. The committee decided this was fair.

Approved Ef Corals (1st Tier)

SPS
20k Lokani--3/4-1"
Alt Purple Simplex--1/2"
Aquascene Echinata --1/2"
Atl Shades Of Fall Acro--1/2"
Icefire Echinata--1/2"
Karl's Candlelight 1"
Lime In The Sky-- 1"
ORA Blue Voodoo--3/4-1"
ORA Borealis--1 Inch
ORA German Blue Polyp Acro"”3/4"
ORA Hawkins Echinata--1+ Inch
ORA Pearlberry Acro--3/4-1"
ORA Red Planet -- 3/4-1"
ORA Roscoes Blue Acro--3/4-1"
Oregon Tort--1/2 Inch
Pink Lemonade--1"
Purple Monster--1/4"
Sandollar's Blue Matrix--1/2"
Tyree Blood-Red Eyes Cyphastrea--3/4"
Tyree LE 500 Efflo--3/4"
Uwp "Glowstick" Acro--1+ Inch
BPrestwo Blue Matrix --1"
Pink Jade"¦ --1"
Mr. Ugly Red Prostrata"¦ --1"
ORA Joe the Coral"¦.- 3/4-1"

Chalice (1 eye is the going frag rate usually on chalices.)
Area 51 Chalice"¦
Atl Alien Eye Chalice"¦
Atl Golden Eye Chalice"¦
Bazooka Joe Chalice
Bubble Gum Moster Chalice"¦
Darth Maul Chalice"¦
Emerald Mummy Eye Chalice"¦
Exotic Reef's Rastafarian Chalice
Miami Hurricane Chalice"¦
Orange Sherbert Chalice
Rmrjwieger's Watermelon Chalice
The Coral Oasis Volcano Chalice
Tropicorium Grape Watermelon Chalice"¦
Tyree LE Pink And Blue Chalice
Tyree LE Pink Watermelon Chalice"¦
Tyree LE Rainbow Delight Chalice"¦
Tyree Red Watemelon Chalice"¦
Ultimates Watermelon Chalice"¦
YR Eye Tyrant Chalice"¦
Joshua's Treasure"¦(2 eyes)
RAH Hot Pink Lips chalice
RAH Seedless Watermelon Chalice -
RAH Pink Cadillac Chalice -
Hot Tamale Chalice - Vivid Aquariums-
RAH Seedless Watermelon Chalice-
PurpleUp's Pink Chalice
PurpleUp's Pink&Blu Chalice
scottyreef: Razzle Rainbow chalice -
original mummy eye
golden galaxy chalice
Moses Hot Pink Chalice
cheeries jubilee chalice

Montipora (suggested size at least 3/4")
AE Pink Cadillac Monti"¦3/4"
Copps Reverse Sunset Monti"¦3/4"
Copps Vesuvius Monti"¦3/4"
Orenji Monti Danae"¦3/4"
FNF "RedBug Monti "¦3/4"

LPS
Ice Blue Leptastrea--1" Square
Mycedium Robokaki"¦1-2 eyes
Tyree War Coral: W/ Linage--4 Heads
Dendrophlia-1 head
Super walmart micromussa... w/3 heads
Dollar tree micromussa.... w/3 heads
FNF Sunset Acans"¦ (2 heads

Favia
AE Baby's Breath Favia--2 Heads
AE Eye Of Jupiter Favia--2 Heads
AE Martian Moon Favia--2 Heads
Dragon's Revenge Favia--2 Heads
Pink & Purle Pillow favia--2 Heads
Tyree Dragon Eye Montastrea--2 Heads
Tyree Dragon Soul Favia--2 Heads
Tyree War and Peace Favia--2 Heads
Aussie Reverse Prism Favia-- ( 2 Heads)
Mutated MeteiorShower favia
Gold Dust Favi



Zoas/Palys
Atl Valentines Day Massacre--3+Polyps
Darth Maul Palys--3+ polyps
Purple People Eater Palys--1+ Polyps
Rastas--2+ Polyps
Rose Nebula Zoanthids--5 Polyps
Everlasting Gobstoppers"¦. (2 polyps),
Tyree Armageddon2 Palys


Pink Yuma





Approved Ef Corals (2nd Tier)

Sps
30k Lokani--3/4"
Acropora Insignis--1+ Inch
ATL Rainbow Sherbert Acro

ATL Tar Heals Stag--1" Inch
Garf's Purple Bonsai (At Least 1")
Greg Hiller's Aquadelight 1"
LE Bali Tricolor--1+ Inch
Mars Lokani--1+ Inch
ORA Purple Plasma--1+ Inch
Pink Watermelon Acro--1+ Inch
Radioactive Tuneus 3/4"
Rainbow Milli - 1"+
Tyree Ponape Torch--1+ Inch
Yellow Stinger
ORA Bird Of Paradise:
ROAB Digi (1 inch)
scottyreef: Long Arm Deepwater
scottyreef: YellowJacket Acro

Montipora
Atl Pink Polyp Flower Petal Monti--1.5"
Atl Strawberry Patch Monti--1.5"
Eric's Chille Pepper Monti --3/4"Sq
Incredible Hulk Monti--3/4"Sq
LE Sunset Monti--3/4"Sq
LE Superman Monti--3/4"Sq
Tyree (Baby)Blue Polyp Flower Petal--1.5"
Tyree AE Cebuensis(Bloody Mary Monti)--3/4"Sq
Tyree LE Rainbow Monti--3/4"Sq
Tyree LE Undata--3/4"Sq
Orange Montipora Sotosa (3/4 inch)
Sandollars Pink Polyp Cap (3/4 inch)
AE seasons greetings monti"¦ (3/4 inch)
pokerstar monti"¦-(3/4 inch)

Lps
Blasto Merletti--7 Heads
Acan Lords--1+ inch
Duncans--5 Heads
Meteor Shower Cyphastrea--3/4"
Minefield Cyphastrea--3/4"
Spiderman Leptastrea 3/4"
Cyphastrea Decadia:
Aussie Micro (5 heads)

Chalice
Moonwalker Chalice-- 1" Square
Mycedium Silver Light--3/4"
Lemon Lime Chalice - T2 3/4"
ReefReady AlienEye Chalice"¦T2 1" Square

Favia
Christmas Favia --1+ Inch
Favites Flexuosa (Reverse Prism) --1+ Inch
Prism Favia--1+ Inch
scottyreef: GrapeJuice Lime Favia (>9heads) - T1

Zoas/Palys
Armor Of God Palys--7+ Polyps
ATL Blue Eyed Devils -"“ 5+ Polyps)
Bam Bam Zoas--7+ Polyps
Candy Apple Pink--5+ Polyp Min
Candy Apple Reds--4+Polyps)
Cat Eye Zoos--5+ Polyp Min
Devils Armor Palys--5+ Polyps
LE True Safecrackers--5+ Polyps
Lunar Eclipse--5+ Polyps
Mohawks--5+ Polyps
Nuclear Green Palys--5+ Polyps
Tyree Blue Eyed Girl Zoas -- 5+ Polyp
WhoDah Unnatainable Paly: T2 (2 Polyps)
Purple Death Palys-- 5 Polyps T2
Joker Palys"”5 polyps T2
Angry Hornets - 5+ polyps T2
Captain America Paly's
pink elephants
Orange Palys

Softies (NO FRESH CUT)
Blue Xeina-Cespitularia--2" encrusted.
Tyree Neon Green Toadstool--1.5" encrusted
Orange yumas (1 polyp)

Disapproved
Miami Orchid Stag
Red ring Joker zoa's

Thank you Barb that makes more sense now. I guess
I'm just tierd and confused for the most part lol.
I couldn't find that list to save my life :beer:

 

[dlee300z]

These rules are good for the people who do not have much EF corals. Hopefully they will know later on how to share the love. I know I did. =)