Frogspawn Expelling Stuffs

Boochika

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I've noticed for the past couple days around 2pm my frogspawn, after looking happy and healthy all day long will shrink up and begin expelling waste.

This is halfway through the high time in my lighting cycle (AP700 40%, 12" off the water). There is no spectrum change on my light cycle that would trigger this.

Frogspawn is about 1/3 of the way up in the tank and 1/3 of the way off center to the right. I'll upload pictures shortly.

I'm just curious if this means my lighting is too high or if my recent feeding 2 days ago was too aggressive. I did some directed feeding of reef roids to the frogspawn on Sunday. First time I fed it.

Odd thing for me is that it has happened at nearly the exact time each day.
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Offhand I'd say it's expelling zooxanthellae. It looks retracted and puckered.

That's what I thought too, especially since it's brown stringy stuff. Do you think my lighting is too high or it's adjusting to the lighting?

Seems happy all day before and after this. Although it's not totally expanded.

Here is a picture of it 'happy'
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I think it could be octospawn based off how many polyps per tentacles. I finally moved it today to the substrate on a rock lower on the corner of my tank as it seemed to be expelling jibe each day at the same time.

I'm going to leave it for a week and see how it goes.

Does this lookike too much flow for it?

https://youtu.be/QVLXw_RmGmw



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Maybe it's an octo, but I'm not feeling it. Either way, it is no where near what it could be. I don't wish to harsh your joy, but IMHO, it's closer to sad than happy. I totally think you can get it to be happy.

As mentioned by heritage, lighting could be an issue. How long is your light cycle? Is it possible to reduce white some?

How is your water quality? What are your alk, calcium and mag levels?

Here are a couple shots of my frogspawn.

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Maybe it's an octo, but I'm not feeling it. Either way, it is no where near what it could be. I don't wish to harsh your joy, but IMHO, it's closer to sad than happy. I totally think you can get it to be happy.

As mentioned by heritage, lighting could be an issue. How long is your light cycle? Is it possible to reduce white some?

How is your water quality? What are your alk, calcium and mag levels?

Here are a couple shots of my frogspawn.

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I know. Bumming on it. I've had it almost 2 weeks that's as much as it opens with the lights on.

I have a kessil ap700 running at 40%. About a foot off the water.

As far as white light goes I hardly have any white spectrum as I stay in the 'blue' on the spectrum wheel.

My alk is around 8 +/- .1 I'd say. Calcium around 420. PH around 8 after I added kalk few weeks back. No nitrates and .03 po4. 1.0256 salinity. My mag is right around 1350.

I really want this guy to work out I've overhauled my tank and got everything back on track. I measured my par and everything.

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2 weeks is not long. Yes, ideally it could have adjusted and been more inflated in that time. But that's not the case.

I am sensing your desire for things to go well. That's not unrealistic yet.

Euphyllia (frogspawn, hammers, torches) are fairly resilient and tolerant of temporary imperfections in lighting and water chemistry.

Your reported alk, ca and mag values are roughly where they should be. It's a bit odd to have zero nitrates and 0.03 phosphates. I would expect non zero nitrates then.

What par reading do you estimate is hitting its current location?

How are you measuring your salinity?

Are you skimming? Are you doing water changes?

Running carbon?

Just trying to understand your maintenance.

Oh, and based on your video and retracted appearance, not too much flow. I would like to see how it looks when extended before making a definitive flow call.
 
Par reading at curent location is around 120. I am skimming and emptying cup about every 4-7 days.

Measure salinity with an American marine digital probe.

Water changes every 2 weeks of natural sea water from Scripps oceanography.

I'm not running carbon but I'm dosing nopox 3ml per day. Slowing tailoring down each week to see if I can detect some nitrate.

I'll try to get another video with it extended I the flow. Usually pretty gentle back and forth sway then an abrupt wiggle at the tips. The whole thing isn't whipping back and forth though.

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I did stop and nitrates have returned. Unfortunately I lost the frogspawn and an Acan. I believe there is some sort of pathogen or contaminate in my tank ruining all my LPS.

ICP test was fine as well as my own tests. I've had poly filters in for a week seemingly to no avail. I will continue water changes until I get 120% water change from last month and see if I can rid myself of the pathogen. Maybe some sort of small worm or something. There are some holes in my favites skeleton and lobo skeleton as well. They are nearly dead as well. Barely hanging on.
 
I am sorry to hear this. I had a tank of LPS melt down once and I know the frustration your feeling. I gave up for a while and then rebooted and things seem to be going well. Like you I believe something infected my tank as there was no real explanation I could find, I can only theorize.

Thanks 907. I've changed about 120% of my water over the past month or so and maybe lost $500 worth of corals but things seem to be looking up.

I bought 1 single duncan frag as a test and it's the happiest coral I've seen in my tank in 6 months. Fingers crossed this is a sign of things to come. I was on the verge of quitting completely.
 
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