Frogspawn not fully extending

[Patrick Cox]

Hello,
Any idea why this frogspawn looks like this? I have periodically seen this before but it seems like it happens more often than not.

Thanks.

 

[Mark9]

Nice goniopora.
As to the frogspawn, hows your water, specifically ca & kh?
Great picture.

 

[Patrick Cox]

Nice goniopora.
As to the frogspawn, hows your water, specifically ca & kh?
Great picture.

Thanks for your reply. Yes, that goniopora is doing great. My parameters are actually pretty stable. I took readings this past weekend and they were as follows...

Alk = 8.7
CA = 460
Mg = 1365
Salinity = 35 ppt
Phosphate = 0 (but I do have some algae so I know there are nutrients.)

I dose 2 part, perform a 7% water change weekly and I does Prodibio every other week. Looking back on it I think it is possible that the frogspawn has been this way since I started dosing the prodibio, but I can't say for sure. Also, I have two pieces of frogspawn in separate spots in the tank and they both look the same. Tank is 75G (36x24x20) and I am running two Vortech MP40s at 25-50%. Some times I will run at 75% for nutrient export but mostly I run them low. Lights are T5/LED combo and I have been gradually ramping up the LED intensity over the past few months. LEDs are at about 50%. (150w LED, 4x39w T5) I run LEDs and T5s together for about 6 hours with dawn and dusk ramps.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Mark9]

Thanks for your help.

Actually, I was no help.
To me, looks like you are doing everything right.
Nice numbers, dosing, good lights, everything seems on point.
I have no idea why they are unhappy.
Could they be getting too much flow or light?
All my frogspawn are mid tank with moderate flow, which yours look to be, maybe even a bit lower than mid tank.

I bought the contents of an entire tank about 6 weeks ago, guy shutting down his tank.
Anyways, all of the corals I got were bleached.
One was a frogspawn that looked much like yours, maybe even worse.
I put it low flow, low light and it has totally bounced back.
I keep thinking I need to move it to more light, but don't really have a place to put it, and it seems happy.
But the point is, maybe too much light?
But i'm guessing.

Why the prodibio?

 

[theMatrix]

Mine does this every night. It loves light and gets rather large during the highest setting on lights.
But when the photo period gets at dusk with blues....it does that.
Is both of them doing it at night late hours?
Almost looks like theres no light and only blues for color.
It looks like when its being shipped

 

[ian09]

Agree with first response above, may be too much or either too much or little light. I have a couple hammers and mine did this for a week before it fully opened up. I also dipped in iodine every other day. You may want to try dipping with lugols.

 

[Patrick Cox]

But the point is, maybe too much light?
But i'm guessing.

Why the prodibio?

I agree that it seems like it might be light or flow - (I'm thinking light.) I might try to move one piece to another part of the tank.

Regarding Prodibio, I was battling GHA earlier in the year and this was one of the products I used to combat that. My tank is doing better but I do have some cyano now as well.

Mine does this every night. It loves light and gets rather large during the highest setting on lights.
But when the photo period gets at dusk with blues....it does that.
Is both of them doing it at night late hours?
Almost looks like theres no light and only blues for color.
It looks like when its being shipped

I think the colors are due to the picture being taken with my phone. Here are a two new pictures from a better camera.

Also, they are staying like this through the whole day, not just at night. They do extend just a bit but not fully like they used to.

And the red spots on the first close up are planaria flatworms. I have had these for awhile.

 

[theMatrix]

Maybe dose iodine? When was the last water change?
How old are the tubes on the light?

 

[Patrick Cox]

Maybe dose iodine? When was the last water change?
How old are the tubes on the light?

I change 5 gallons per week and tank is 75 gallons. Tubes are 8 months old. Maybe I need to change? I will look into iodine. thanks.

 

[Mark9]

The Duncan doesn't seem that happy either.

 

[Webmanny]

Please note that this is just based on my experience. Your issue may be with temperature or Chloramines.

This always happens to me every summer and she the water department flushes their lines with Chloramines.

Do you have a temp tracker? What type of RODI filters do you use?

 

[Patrick Cox]

Please note that this is just based on my experience. Your issue may be with temperature or Chloramines.

This always happens to me every summer and she the water department flushes their lines with Chloramines.

Do you have a temp tracker? What type of RODI filters do you use?

Thanks for your reply. I am certain neither of these items are the issue. I use an RODI system that filters our Chloramines and temperature is consistent year round. Thanks for your input though!

 

[kgravity]

I just skimmed through a post the other day in the tampa bay reef club section where alot of people have been having issues with normally healthy euphilia dying and shriveling lately. I will try and find it. May have something helpful.

 

[kgravity]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2532062

 

[ali.farzinrad]

Hi
I have the same problem as you.
When I changed my Light, the height was low and all my reefs didn't open themselves like before.
Check your light too, maybe if you put it in another place with lower light the arms will be open completely.

 

[Dkuhlmann]

The Duncan doesn't seem that happy either.

I was going to say the same thing. I'm thinking there is too much light for the Euphyllia and Duncan corals. Neither likes strong lighting or anything more than moderate flow. Both can be contributing factors to either of them not fully opening.

You have plenty of lower light areas in your sandbed judging from the fts you provided. I would move all three both Euphyllia's and the Duncan to the sandbed and see how they do.

 

[kgravity]

I have found my duncans's fairly tolerant of light, I have two that I keep bottom and middle/bottom part of the tank, and they are sprouting new heads all the time, but I also have one that is at the same level as my monti setosa and he hasnt sprouted as many heads but its growth is a little different and its base has encrusted his plug and some of the rock around.