FS: 75G complete setup

NCNBilly

Black thumb reefer
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The time has come for me to downsize (build thread upcoming on a peninsula 20L). This is only to club 'members' for now, I'll probably just keep and store anything that doesn't sell.

The list:


75G, dual glass corner overflows with black acrylic covers. Drilled for closed loop as well.
Custom stand and matching canopy - built by yours truly (and my Dad)
2x250w DE MH & 4x54w t5 (individual parabolic reflectors)
$350

Vortech MP40w, Gen 2 w/battery backup and some extra pieces $325

MRC - CR-1 calcium reactor, with additional DIY chamber. Complete with milwaukee regulator, CO2 probe/controller and CO2 bottle.
$250

Live rock - $2.50/lb, will sell about 100lbs.


I have a few more things that I may part with, but this'll get me the funds to start the next build. Possible trades:

Nano-ish size tank, pendant lights, ranco controller.
 
I am interested in some live rock, but will need to store it for about a month or so. Can I place in a tub, not my bathroom one, with water? Some circulation, heat, light, etc? Thanks. Is it an all or nothing buy as well?
 
Not, not an all or nothing, but I don't want to sell 5lbs a time either... :)

There's a few pieces with some algae that would do well to be in a tub (no lights) for awhile. it's been dying on it's own since my NO3 is under control, and that would completely knock it out. I've been flipping the rock over which has been pretty successful at killing it too. FWIW: you should quarantine all rock like that anyway.
 
Yep, no light - if there is a nutrient spike from die-off, you are less likely to have an algae problem. 2-3 weeks is fine, but you can leave it like that indefinitely. The life is in the rock, not on it.. :)
 
Wow... that's a shocker Bill. At least glad to see you're not "getting out".

Originally posted</a> by SeanT

Here are the "Rock Cooking" instructions:

The purpose of "cooking" your rocks is to have the bacteria consume all (or as much) organic material and PO4 stored on, and in, the rock as possible.

The new environment you are creating for your rock is to take it from an algal driven to a bacterial driven system.
In order to do this, the rock needs to be in total darkness to retard and eventually kill the algae's on the rock and to give the bacteria time to do the job.

So basically you need tubs to hold the rock.

Equipment needed.
1. Dedication.
2. Tubs to cook rock in. And an equal amount of tubs to hold the rock during waterchanges.
3. A few powerheads.
4. Plenty of buckets.
5. A smug feeling of superiority that you are taking it to "the next level."
6. Saltwater, enough made up to follow the instructions below and to replenish your tank after removing rocks.
Here are the steps:

1. Get into your head and accept the fact you will be making lots of salt water if you aren't lucky enough to have access to filtered NSW.
2. Explain to significant other what is going on so they don't flip out. This process can take up to 2 months. Prepare them in advance so he/she can mark it on the calendar and that they won't nag about it until that date arrives.
3. Setup a tub(s) where the rock is to be cooked. Garages are great for this.
4. Make up enough water to fill tub(s) about halfway and around 5-7 buckets about 60% full.
5. Remove all the rock you want to cook at this stage. (The rock can be removed piece by piece until you are done.) I suggest shutting off the circulation beforehand to minimize dust storms.
6. Take the first piece of rock and dunk it, swish it, very, very well in the first bucket. Then do it again in the 2nd bucket, then the third.
7. Place rock in the tub.
8. Repeat steps 6 & 7 to every piece of rock you want to cook at this time. The reason I suggested 5-7 buckets of water will be evident quickly...as the water quickly turns brown.
9. Place powerhead(s) in the tub and plug in. Position at least one powerhead so that it agitates the surface of the water pretty well. This is to keep the water oxygenated. You can use an air pump for additional oxygenation if you wish. Only one powerhead per tub is needed. Remember the powerheads main responsibility is the oxygenation of the water.
10. Cover the tub. Remember, we want TOTAL darkness.
11. Empty out buckets, restart circulation on main tank.
12. Wait.
13. During the first couple of weeks it is recommended to do a swishing and dunking of the rocks twice a week.
What this entails is to make up enough water to fill up those buckets and the tub the rock is in.
First, lay out your empty tub(s) and fill buckets the same as before.
Then, uncover tub with the rock in it. Take a rock and swish it in the tub it's in to knock any easy to get off junk.
Then, swish it thru the 3 buckets again, and place in the empty tub..
Repeat for all your rocks.
Then empty the tub that all the rocks were cooking in, take it outside and rinse it out with a hose.
Place tub back where it was, fill with new saltwater, add rocks and powerheads, and cover.
Wait again until the next water change.
You will be utterly amazed at how much sand, silt, detritus is at the bottom of the tub and every bucket. It is amazing.
At times the stench was so strong I gagged.

How it works:

Some FAQ's.
When re-introducing the rock to my tank, a month or two from now, should I do that in parts to help minimize any cycling effect(s)...if there are any?
I never have. Really after a very short while, the ammonium cycle has been established. That's not what you're worry about though, it's the stored phosphates and that you have to wait it out.
When they are producing very little detritus - you'll know - then I would use them all at once.

Would running Carbon filtration and/or a PO4 reducing media help/hurry/hinder the process?
I wouldn't fool with it. You don't want the detritus to sit there long enough to rot, release water soluble P again. You want to take it out while it's still locked up in that bacterial detritus.

And a few last minute tidbits I remembered.
Your coralline will die back, recede etc.
My thoughts on this are GREAT!
Now my rock is more porous for additional pods, mysids, worms etc.
Coralline will grow back.
Throughout this process the sponges, and pods on my rock have not died off.
Every time I do a water change they are there and plentiful.
 
Thanks for the info Joel. I am a little confused, well a little some of the time and a lot most of the time, but that's a different story. From reading this, should you perform this periodically? Could someone explain this: The new environment you are creating for your rock is to take it from an algal driven to a bacterial driven system, taken from above. Thanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15718056#post15718056 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ganjero
any pictures? by any chance do you have a ro/di unit for sale?

I'll try and grab some pics, but no - not selling an RO/DI.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15718056#post15718056 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ganjero
any pictures? by any chance do you have a ro/di unit for sale?

I am sure Bulk Reef supply will be happy to help you in this effort.

Welcome to Harrisburg, what brought you here from the left coast?
 
Jeff, rock cooking is a one time process over a few weeks before you introduce to your tank. the bacterial driven process thing is just while it's cooking.

it's extreme, but some people swear by it. i myself have never tried it
 
I would suggest it for this rock - it's been in my system for almost 10 years now and could probably use a 'recharge'. It has seemed to have lost some of it's denitrifying power over the years.
 
I am definitely interested in some rock. Could you PM some more info to me, possible date(s) to get some, etc. Thanks.
 
I've decided not to pack it in just yet, but I'm going to be going to FOWLR (and whatever corals survive.

Think I'm going to get a dog-faced puffer and an angel or two. At some point I'll get back into corals, but for now I think this will do.

I've still got some weird bacterial stuff going on, so I'm going to remove and cook all the rock.

I will probably still have some gear for sale (halides, vortech, Calcium reactor) if anyone is interested.
 
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