Genetic Clownfish ???

[wegotjs]

So I am trying to breed B/W snowflakes.I know that ORA is in the process of doing this also and probable a few others. What i am trying to find out is ,
Is there more of a genetic influence from the male or female or is it 50/50.If anyone has any info or sites it would be helpfull. Even picaso info would help, I want to know if it would be better to have the b/w as female or snowflake female to get best results. Before anyone gets crazy I understand what percentages of premium clowns to expect if any from the clutches . Just wondered if there was any documintation on this info as to if one will pruduce a higher rate or not.

 

[AnayaReef]

Any luck on this info since your post?

 

[dalilgriffith]

This may take years to do. What you would need to do is get a crap load of pairs... get them to spawn, isolate the blackest, snowflaked ones and breed them with newly introduced snowflake or black occ mates. I believe this is how ORA achieved the Plat Percula. Its going to take time, patience, and a lot of pairs

 

[ctenophors rule]

plus one for da lil girl

you would have to be exceptionaly lucky to get what your looking for with just one pair...short of excessive inbreeding.

 

[Talfish]

I can't provide any Snowflake info but I can tell you what I'm experiencing with my Picasso pair....

The pair of Picasso's that I'm working with would be considered grade B.

I'm currently raising three different clutches from this pair.

First off, they produce far fewer eggs than my other clownfish pairs and getting them to hatch is more difficult.

With the first batch, I was only able to get 2 fish to meta and they both turned out to be Platinums.

Each consecutive batch had a higher survival rate. With batch 2 and 3 I've gotten more Platinums along with grade A, B, funky misbars, and regular A. percula.

You can see more info here: http://fishtalpropagations.com/PicassoVariant.aspx

 

[kerusso316]

My male is a snowflake. I have three.... One in a million fish.

 

[FMarini]

Tal-
if you think about the business side of things, its clear that ORA is only breeding for platinum (its the highest return on investment).
If you do the genetics, platinum's beget regular looking clowns up thru picassos right up to platinums, and vice versa- regular looking or picasso clowns beget more picassos, regular looking and platinums. Therefore most of the regular-looking percula clowns that come out of ORA have 1/4 or 1/2 traits for platinum, as you've observed. Predicting how many platinums per batch will be the interesting part.
AS for clown genetics, they are thought to follow simple Mendelian genetics- w/ a caveat. Mendelain genetics only hold true when single genes are responsible for the phenotype, such as green and no green. However, the data are more confusing w/ clown baring or mis-baring as it appears to be able to be modulated thru some forms of environmental factors, known as epigenetic regulation. Its also been hypothesized that the barring is a multi-genic event, suggesting a sequence or influence of other genes on the outcome. Eitherway- clown genetic show inheritable traits, its just the proportion in which they appear seems to not be as predictable as initially thought
Its unlear how

 

[Talfish]

Frank-

I'd love to find out what is going on at the genetic level. In my case, not for the purpose of breeding for a specific outcome, more to just figure out what's going on.

Do you know of anyone that has bred a pair of Platinums? I plan on keeping a pair of my offspring and trying in the future but it will take a while for them to mature.