Hang on Skimmers
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RichConley
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With the size of the remora's cup, on a 46 gallon, it should be pulling out a cup of black stuff every other day.
People just dont realize how GOOD a good skimmer is.
deejayfish
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dhnguyen Could you post the link to the mod? Thanks
skimmy
T3am Zissou
here you go, here's mine...
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28372
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28372
happyface888
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kora thats pretty cool where did you get that grill thing for your prepellar? and the mesh??? My cpr has a rio 800 I dont have a mj for it
skimmy
T3am Zissou
just buy a maxijet 1200, less than $20, throw rio in garbage...
here'a a kit that has the mesh, zip ties/fishing line , and gutter guard all together
http://www.barrierreefaquariums.com/productCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=159&idproduct=221
or if you want a bunch;
http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/4323/cid/1278
here'a a kit that has the mesh, zip ties/fishing line , and gutter guard all together
http://www.barrierreefaquariums.com/productCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=159&idproduct=221
or if you want a bunch;
http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/4323/cid/1278
luke33
In Memoriam
Yea, remora's are garbage. You couldn't pay me to use it. There generally an upgrade from a seaclown and people think they are good since they have never used anything that is even decent to mediocre. I'd say the only skimmers that are useful for hot or in tank are the bermuda hot or an in tank tunze.
FishAreFriends2
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Is the remora really that bad? When I posted at other forums they told me the remora is really good and I should get it. Why is the remora bad?
Some of these posts crack me up. I really don't want to be the "voice" of the Remora but it IS a skimmer. I have used, and seen results from several different skimmer brands. To say that one skimmer on someone else's tank should pull more or less skimate is absurd, you don't know the bio load or other relative factors of that tank.
I know it sounds "crazy" but sometimes it doesn't make a lot of sense to place a $700 skimmer on a 50 gallon tank. Will the "real skimmer" do a better job, probably but the cost benefit is out of whack.
For those of you touting the "people like Remora because they don't know what a real skimmer does", you make me laugh.
I've used cheap skimmers and expensive ones and really each scenario I used them in was a little bit different. On my 225 I have a LifeReef and I love it. Would I claim that my current skimmer is the best one out there...no, but it works great for me and better than others I have used in the past.
HOB sometimes are necessary because a sump doesn't exists, space constraints, and other issues. For a less expensive HOB skimmer the Remora works well for a setup where a sump is not possible. I have no input on the Typhoon or others mentioned since I have not used them personally. If you get a sump will you still be using the Remora, probably not, but you could use if for a time saving up for the Mother of all Skimmers!
I know it sounds "crazy" but sometimes it doesn't make a lot of sense to place a $700 skimmer on a 50 gallon tank. Will the "real skimmer" do a better job, probably but the cost benefit is out of whack.
For those of you touting the "people like Remora because they don't know what a real skimmer does", you make me laugh.
I've used cheap skimmers and expensive ones and really each scenario I used them in was a little bit different. On my 225 I have a LifeReef and I love it. Would I claim that my current skimmer is the best one out there...no, but it works great for me and better than others I have used in the past.
HOB sometimes are necessary because a sump doesn't exists, space constraints, and other issues. For a less expensive HOB skimmer the Remora works well for a setup where a sump is not possible. I have no input on the Typhoon or others mentioned since I have not used them personally. If you get a sump will you still be using the Remora, probably not, but you could use if for a time saving up for the Mother of all Skimmers!
hahnmeister
In Memoriam
I think it comes down to the physics. Remoras, and other AquaC skimmers, use a venturi method of inducting air into the water. Becketts, downdrafts, mazzei, nozzle... they all require a pump that can handle a good deal of back pressure. Well... when you get into the 300gph and under range for pumps... this doesnt really exist. The pumps are just glorified powerheads, and not so great at operating a venturi or in a pressure situation. Why do people have 'problems' with Remoras? Well, because the way they use the pumps results in only about 1/2 the air intake and bubble production into the skimmer as a needlewheel of the same pump would produce. A remora with a MJ1200 must be pulling less than 100lph of air.
Now, maybe some will disagree, but I have found that a good rule of thumb for sizing skimmers is for a 2' tall skimmer, you should have about 4lph of air for every gallon on a light to medium stocked tank, and 8 lph on a heavily stocked one. So for a 40g, a skimmer about 2' tall should be using about 160lph of air for up to a medium load. As it turns out, that is pretty much what a MJ1200 needlewheel powered skimmer can do. With a sub 100lph of air intake on the remora, I wouldnt run it on anything larger than a 30g.
Now, maybe some will disagree, but I have found that a good rule of thumb for sizing skimmers is for a 2' tall skimmer, you should have about 4lph of air for every gallon on a light to medium stocked tank, and 8 lph on a heavily stocked one. So for a 40g, a skimmer about 2' tall should be using about 160lph of air for up to a medium load. As it turns out, that is pretty much what a MJ1200 needlewheel powered skimmer can do. With a sub 100lph of air intake on the remora, I wouldnt run it on anything larger than a 30g.
enough said
I would love to hear how you would explain how a $30 cheapo Odyssea HOB skimmer performed 10 times better than a $200 Remora. I am not even comparing another $200 HOB skimmer to the Remora here. A "real" skimmer doesn't automatically mean it's expensive. Infact this is my whole point here, the Remora a mediocre skimmer (at best) with a premium pricetag.
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hahnmeister
In Memoriam
Aqua Medic T3000 blue. Now thats a real HOB skimmer. Or a ZC Aquarientechnik Cylon (http://www.zc-aquarientechnik.de/zc-englisch/meerw_-abschaumer.html). But when you think about it *(I think I mentioned it before)* there really isnt much to simply using an external/recirc skimmer on the back of a tank by just plumbing it over the side. The input and outlet/standpipe of a recirc are at the top of the skimmer, as only the pump and body is mounted below. I have seen AquaC EV series, even becketts and their like, mounted on the back of a tank. You just need the space behind the tank really.
Or, one skimmer I am shocked nobody has mentioned is the Bermuda rogue....
http://www.bermudaaquatics.com/rogue.htm
Or, one skimmer I am shocked nobody has mentioned is the Bermuda rogue....
http://www.bermudaaquatics.com/rogue.htm
happyface888
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The ZC looks pretty cool but I have no clue what the cost is. For the Bermuda I am curious whats the use of bio-balls? I read its not really helpful for established tanks, something about nitrate problems
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