have u all seen the redseamax
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rockindacheeks
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I saw them at MACNA... pretty sweet. Probably the coolest thing on it is that only 1 plug goes into the wall. all pumps and lights plug into a strip on the side which is pretty sweet. The lamps arent really T5s unless they changed something since i talk to them. They are T5 diameter Compact Flourescent lamps.
rockindacheeks
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I think the guy told me anywhere from $550-$600
hammerswinger
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built in prizm skimmer will have to go though.
AndyNarwhal
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The lights are really compact fluorescent. T5 refers to the diameter of the bulb glass (5/8"). Technically most compact fluorescent bulbs are T5 as well. The difference is the double tube instead of the single. The reason that the single tube T5's are so popular is the fixtures can use a different type of reflector that will increase the light directed downwards by 20-30% compared to the compact fluorescents which can't use the same type of reflector because of the tube arrangement.
I have seen the Red Sea Max and it does have some really nice aspects but I am not a big fan of the flat front and I have yet to speak with anyone who has actually purchased one.
I have seen the Red Sea Max and it does have some really nice aspects but I am not a big fan of the flat front and I have yet to speak with anyone who has actually purchased one.
rockindacheeks
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www.redseamax.com everything you need to know about it.
drummereef
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I like the T5 element, but why do the all in one tank manufacturers insist on mechanical and bio filtration integrated into the tank. Don't they read the forums? 
Kind of just looks like a bio cube with a Prism filter/skimmer stuck on the back. Just my 2 cents.
Kind of just looks like a bio cube with a Prism filter/skimmer stuck on the back. Just my 2 cents.AndyNarwhal
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drummerreef. I think you are taking kind of a narrow view of the nano market. Not everyone is setting up SPS tanks. A lot of people set them up as fish only and even freshwater tanks. If you made the tank only with refugiums and no mechanical or biological filtration you would offer the tank so specialized that you wouldn't be able to sell enough to make it worth it. By making the tank with basic filtration for a wide variety of uses you widen the market that it's available too.
Also the lighting is not T5 as most would interpret T5 as being. It is 55 watt PC lighting. Technically all PC lighting is T5 since that only refers to the diameter of the bulb(s) (5/8"). The main difference with T5 lighting in a single tube bulb is that you can use a parabolic reflector on each bulb which will increase the light intensity 20-30%. This is not possible with PC lighting because of the wider cross section of the twin tube design.
Also the lighting is not T5 as most would interpret T5 as being. It is 55 watt PC lighting. Technically all PC lighting is T5 since that only refers to the diameter of the bulb(s) (5/8"). The main difference with T5 lighting in a single tube bulb is that you can use a parabolic reflector on each bulb which will increase the light intensity 20-30%. This is not possible with PC lighting because of the wider cross section of the twin tube design.
scoobasteve
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55 watts doesn't seem to be enough for 34 gallons. I have the 12g AP with 54 pc and it can't keep anenomes very well for very long without feedings every day. It would be nice to see some shallow all in one set ups instead of all of these cubes, the lighting is so much more effective with long and shallow tanks, and flow is easier as well.
I do believe these are marketed at mainly reffkeeping buyers, i find it hard to believe that anyone would buy an all in one cube for fish only or freshwater when for a quarter of the cost you could set up a 30 gallon tank with a HOB filter or even a canister and flourescent lighting.
IN my experience on this forum, i have decided that i should have saved the money i spent on my AP and set up a DIY ten or 20L. Basically because "everything you need" really rarely is.
I do believe these are marketed at mainly reffkeeping buyers, i find it hard to believe that anyone would buy an all in one cube for fish only or freshwater when for a quarter of the cost you could set up a 30 gallon tank with a HOB filter or even a canister and flourescent lighting.
IN my experience on this forum, i have decided that i should have saved the money i spent on my AP and set up a DIY ten or 20L. Basically because "everything you need" really rarely is.
Scooba- it has 2 -55wt bulbs, not just one.
And it is true that a standard flo tube does give you more reflector option, but PC bulbs are usually a T6 diameter, not the T5. That diff make the 110wt output probabaly have 10-15% more light that a T6 pc bulb that everyone else uses.
Personally, I really like the look of the Silver one.
And it is true that a standard flo tube does give you more reflector option, but PC bulbs are usually a T6 diameter, not the T5. That diff make the 110wt output probabaly have 10-15% more light that a T6 pc bulb that everyone else uses.
Personally, I really like the look of the Silver one.
drummereef
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Not arguing with you but when you click on the link you see a pic of the tank setup as a reef tank. Not only that, but every pic associated with the tank is reef related. They also push the Red Sea Fish Pharm reef products on the site as well. I'm assuming they are marketing this product to the reef crowd, not freshwater. The skimmer element isn't selling me. I do like the stand though. Just random thoughts.
they're really expensive. i saw some dealer invoices and the their cost is like $500. so if you're paying $599 thats probably as good of a deal as you'll find for now. i duno if its worth it. Some of us could probably piece together a unit and come into almost the same price range. imho.
prance1520
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I'm somewhat interested for my father-in-law. Everytime he comes to our place he's stuck to the tank, but he really doesn't have time to set up and mess with a setup.
This looks like it might be a nice thing for him. Super simple and convienent. He doesn't have to worry about sump overflows, leaking plumbing, timers, etc. I really like how its glass instead of acrlyic, another selling point for him.
Has anyone played with one yet? Can you remove the skimmer, or at least get to the pump? I'll be more sold when I'm sure I can meshwheel mod the skimmer to make it legit
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Also, I bet if you tried hard enough, you could add individual reflectors to the majority of the surface of those bulbs.
This looks like it might be a nice thing for him. Super simple and convienent. He doesn't have to worry about sump overflows, leaking plumbing, timers, etc. I really like how its glass instead of acrlyic, another selling point for him.
Has anyone played with one yet? Can you remove the skimmer, or at least get to the pump? I'll be more sold when I'm sure I can meshwheel mod the skimmer to make it legit
. Also, I bet if you tried hard enough, you could add individual reflectors to the majority of the surface of those bulbs.
