I found the closed post so enough said. Its a shame people cant agree but hey thats life. I found its a waste, enbrace whats out there and love it for what its worth.
Anyway I still have the website up, altho I let the domain expire I have no hard feelings toward any and would be more then willing to reg a new domain and let you guys use the site I had made for the orignal group. If your intrested let me know and I will give you guys full access to the server.
Thanks,
Dave