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Hey this is ryan...joe met me once. I had two fresh water tanks which went horribly wrong and im trying my luck with saltwater with help from emo. Right now my 55 gallon tank is cycling with about 90 lbs of LR. I just sent an order in to get power compacts from aquatraders to hopefully get some better lights on my tank. Im not to sure what i plan on putting in the tank yet but nemo is a must for the wife. Hopefully a black and white osc. with him. Anyway if you guys n girls could help me out im looking for an extra couple of rocks. Although i have 90 lbs it still looks a little short. Just a couple of em. let me know!

(typed by emonemo cause ryan has the intelligence of a house plant)
 
Hey Ryan, welcome aboard. Let me know if I can help out with anything. Do you live on base? Or in greater downtown Dover? Get Josh to throw a pic up here for you.

If he stacked your rock, he probabaly did it all wrong. j/k

What size was your other tank?


Joe
 
(typed by emonemo cause ryan has the intelligence of a house plant)
There is no way Emo typed that. No words were spelled wrong and there were complete sentences.:lol:

2 clowns in a small tank may not get along too well.
 
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To DRC
 
I would say 90lbs of rock in a 55g would be plenty. You have enough to provide adequate biological filtration, and more then enough space to add corals when that bug bites (and it will).

You want to avoid adding too much rock as it diminishes the amount of water you can actually fit in the tank, and if it's stacked too tightly you'll run in to flow problems.

I agree with AL, be careful adding more then 1 type of clown in a small tank as the generally will not cohabitate nicely. Mind you, this is just a general opinion, I have kept a percula (Nemo to the wife and kids) and a Tomato (still nemo to the wife and kids) in the same tank without issue.

With PC lighting, try to stick to low light softie corals. Don't get tempted to buy an anemone to go with the clowns (trust me the wife will try to talk you in to it) as PC light is really not strong enough to support it.

Otherwise, welcome aboard, good luck, and let us know what we can do to make this fun and enjoyable for you.

Craig
 
There usually isn't a problem adding both a "nemo" and a black osc clown. Technically "nemo" is a regular orange osc clownfish [or "false percula" is another name] and the black one is just a color variant of it, found in Australian waters. There will be bickering between the two however to assert dominance and which one will be female, just make sure the first one you add is bigger, and the second one the smaller one. The smaller one will become the male, the larger the female. The reason I say add the larger one first, if there is any lap of time between adding the second one, like a few weeks or so, odds are that the one that is alone will become a fledged female, so if you add another one that is large, you will end up with another female and that can be bad. But if you add another smaller then the first, he'll get "put in his place" so to speak, so aggression is normal, but the female won't usually kill the male.

I have seen many pairings on ReefCentral of Orange Osc. "Nemo" + Black and White Osc. Clownfish.

Welcome to RC!
-Chris
 
Really, from what I have read in my Clownfishes book by Joyce Wikerson, even if you put perculas and oscillaris clowns in the same tank they will most likley co-habitate and maybe even mate as long as they arent both females.
 
Many Clownfish will co-exist without problems. Right now I have a female Skunk with my male Bicinctus clown. I did that to keep my Bicinctus a male incase the only one I could find ((since they seem harder to obtain)) was larger then him, and if I kept the oiginal by itself it would be female and trouble. So I have them together and the Bicinctus is a male, and they actually display "pairing" behavior, they share the same anemone.

Now the problem with clownfish is adding more then two. Two will pair up and kill the third wheel. Or if you add more then three you could have multiple pairings and they wll kill and fight each other over territories.

Perculas and Oscellaris clown will most likely co-exist from what I've seen and read. The others are probably pointing out the fact that its not %100 true.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11799185#post11799185 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by a1amap
There is no way Emo typed that. No words were spelled wrong and there were complete sentences.:lol:

2 clowns in a small tank may not get along too well.


And there were actually capital letters! :lol:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11799185#post11799185 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by a1amap
2 clowns in a small tank may not get along too well.

Didn't say it was not possible but you have to be cautious because of the sex issue. If you end up with 2 females you will have an issue. Maybe I should have gone into more detail. Icy, I have that same book, pretty good. When I get the 210 up I want to try an onyx pair. I hope to be able to breed them.http://www.rods-reef.com/liveStock.php?pID=2

The 2 perculas I currently have do not travel long distances but if they become a problem I will setup a mini tank upstairs for my wife.
 
thanks Al!!:mad2: lol...i tried to not type like myself so it was "him" talking... u have no idea how hard it was to not add paranthesis (sp? lol)...i love em...but yea hes a good guy.. i just pumbed his return line for his sump and either i or the dog (dog of course) knocked over the whole can of pvc glue on the floor...oops.. he didnt yell at me to bad...but ill get a pic up when he gets the lights and the koralias in!...
 
I went to plumb something tonight only to find out that the cap didnt get screwed on all the way last time and now i have a nice rubber ball... nobody to blame but myself for that one...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11801065#post11801065 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by emonemo420
thanks Al!!:mad2: lol...i tried to not type like myself so it was "him" talking... u have no idea how hard it was to not add paranthesis (sp? lol)...i love em...but yea hes a good guy.. i just pumbed his return line for his sump and either i or the dog (dog of course) knocked over the whole can of pvc glue on the floor...oops.. he didnt yell at me to bad...but ill get a pic up when he gets the lights and the koralias in!...


Did you get the clear :eek1: kind, or the purple:eek2:? HAHAH
 
Purple is the primer, but it doesn't matter because whatever it landed on is usually ruined for good.

But that glue always has a mind of its own. When I use it I always put it in a box that will hold the primer and the glue upright. I have spilled my share.

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Well I hope to get a Large Black and White Osc. then adding a Juv Nemo pattern Osc. a lil afterwards? Money isn't a problem so should I add them at the same time or wait a certain time in between?
 
I would add at the same time. That way no one has a chance to establish territories.

That said, you should make a "dreamlist" of what fish you want in there, get shot down on most of them (mandarins, sharks, whales), and then figure out what order to add them in.

Adding fish to an established tank is almost a science in and of itself. Generally speaking, your most passive, and smallest fish go in first, followed by larger and more aggressive fish incrementally. Post here with questions.

PS, if money isn't a problem, you should give me some!
 
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