Help acros Bleaching

douglam

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I just added a couple of new acros to my tank and they have begun to bleach. im just wondering if i should try and put them higher up in my tank or move them lower. original i thought i should move them higher and then realized that bleaching is usually caused by to much light isnt it? now i dont know what to do.
 
it is a 70 watt MH. and currently the sps's are just about as high as i can get them which about 3 inches from the top of the water. and i have adjusted my flow in my tank so my koralia nano is blowing at them from across the tank.
 
It could be caused by a number of different reasons, but as long as they aren't losing tissue (RTN) you are probably best to leave them where they are and let them adjust and recover. If the tissue is peeling off, it's best to remove them and write them off as something you can't keep in your tank.

Also, check to make sure your temps are reasonable (under 84 or so) and you have no obvious problems with your water params.
 
what do you mean by tissue loss or (RTN) i didnt know that sps really had tissue i thought they pretty much solid calcium. how do i know if i have tissue loss.
 
there does appear to be some tissue death on both my acro just on the tops of the branches and on my montipora. is there anything i can do to fix this. i have tested my water and everything seems to be ok. i i will try and post some pictures later if i can get some good ones.
 
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anyone have any idea? Should i just wait it out since they have only been in the tank for a few days and see if the bleaching/tissue death stops?
 
I don't mean for this to come off rude but if all of the new SPS corals are having tissue loss than your water is not ok, especially if you just added them and they started losing tissue right away. What water tests did you? How long has your Aquapod been up and running, do you use ro/di water for top-off and water changes?
 
What are your water parameters? (Most importantly Alkalinity and Calcium). How do you suppliment Alkalinity and calcium? How long has the tank been set up?
 
Bleaching leaves the tissue in tact (yes, they aren't made of solid stone) but it loses all pigmentation so it appears white or very very pale. RTN involves the peeling away of the tissue so nothing is left but the white skeleton. RTN is very obvious-- the tissue will peel off and float around. It typically starts at the bottom and works its way to the top in a matter of a few days or less-- sometimes overnight.

Bleaching is typically caused by temperature, Salinity problems, or light shock and will usually reverse after a while if all other factors are fine (water quality, light, etc.). RTN, on the other hand, is a bacterial infection brought on by injury or some parameter that is way off in the tank, often Alkalinity related. RTN is usually a death sentence within a couple of days (speaking from experience).

Check your Calcium and Alkalinity as Craig Lambert suggested.
 
Sometimes in transporting SPS the tips get damaged and have tissue loss and die back. RTN as said does usually come from the lower parts and goes up. But with that said it has nothing to do with the bleaching. Did the sps just come in to a LFS. Sometimes the days it takes to get into the shop they are in boxes in the dark, so throwing them right under alot of light sure will shock them. I second as long as the tissue is not peeling off rapidly, I would leave them to adjust.
 
it appears like the tops of them are dieing or are dead but it doesnt look like the tissue is peeling away. i havent seen anything floating around in the tank, but i could have missed it.

my water params
alk-10dkh
calcium- 480
ammonia-0
nitrate-5-10
ph-8.4
phosphate-0
salinity-1.023
temp 78ish at night and 80 during the day
 
Keeping SPS in such a small tank is a very specialist endeavour. The water column is really too unstable to provide for such animals. It could be a variety of reasons why you haven't had success.
IMO nano reefs should only be for softies and a few very well chose LPS - unless you are a very experienced reefer.
How about trying a small clam in there instead!
 
What about the water you use, if your not using ro/di for top-off and water changes you caould be introducing small amounts of metal every time you ad water or do a water change
 
all of the water i use is ro/di and the salt is instant ocean. i am running phosguard which someone told me one time has aluminum in it and it can leach into the water. could this be my problem
 
yes it could be, especially in a tank that small, I would stop using it and do a large water change and see if things improve
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11769744#post11769744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seapug
If the tissue is peeling off, it's best to remove them and write them off as something you can't keep in your tank.

Why would they never be able to be maintained?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11774427#post11774427 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by douglam
my water params
alk-10dkh
calcium- 480
ammonia-0
nitrate-5-10
ph-8.4
phosphate-0
salinity-1.023
temp 78ish at night and 80 during the day

You might want to bring the SG up to 1.024 or 5 and try to bring down the nitrates to 0.

Apparently you can saturate calcium to 500, but most people keep it under or at 450.

PhosAr or PhosArHC might be another type of phosphate removal you could consider. If you don't want brand name you could try getting them in bulk.
 
Re: Help acros Bleaching

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11769503#post11769503 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by douglam
I just added a couple of new acros to my tank and they have begun to bleach. im just wondering if i should try and put them higher up in my tank or move them lower. original i thought i should move them higher and then realized that bleaching is usually caused by to much light isnt it? now i dont know what to do.

Corals in general vary in "hardiness"- even within species. You might want to try your luck with a small frag of a hardy montipora instead- if the acros don't make it.

When I first started I began with LR, then fish, then mushrooms, then more sensitive softies, then hardier montipora, then more sensitive montipora and then acropora. I wasn't able to keep everything overnight. Who knows though...maybe I'm a slow learner. :lol:
 
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