HELP!! I've got ICK!!

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6909548#post6909548 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by leebca
Mayoboy,

Asyou properly quoted, I wrote: There are no miracle cures, and the so-called 'reef safe' cures are not documented with data and experiments to show they work..

There is data and experimentation but none that show they work.

Then can you post links to the experiments which show that these products don't work? Kent makes strong claims of their product and if there is evidence that they are selling snake oil, it should be brought to the public's attention.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6909627#post6909627 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freed
How is asking a question causing trouble? Please explain this.

If you need an explanation...you wouldn't understand.




Lee...thanks for providing some insight and some actual help. It is appreciated. I have read that study before but couldn't remember where.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6909627#post6909627 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freed
How is asking a question causing trouble? Please explain this.

I think it was the "tone", along with the fact that you shot down someone else's advice and didn't offer any other advice. Remember: we all know each other here. We don't know you.

Advice and helpful links from another non-St. Louis person was read and welcomed.
 
You did not offer any information to learn from, as where I did.

Why wait for a scientist to give you the thumbs up ?
Smoking kills, period, but people still do it.
If you don't trust my success then don't do it.
Trolling is lame, and especially when in the past trolling and picking at someones post and not offering anything back is the reason why some of the experts left this site, which in IMHO has led to a degradation to the quality of this site over all.

Im glad for the SEASL forum, where there is little flaming on people who share. (Just those who take and don't give back !)
 
I alone am the one that asked Leebca to join in and share the scientific facts that she is fully knowledgeable in. I have used her wisdom and it has worked. Thank you Leebca
 
That makes it all better. :rolleyes:

I am still confused as to what your snide and unwelcomed comments were all about then?

If I were Lee I would be ashamed of you.


Maybe it is time for you to move on to another topic. :)
 
first of all why would any scientific institution (university) waste funds to study something for home aquarium use?

there won't be any legitimate "scientific proof"...the only "scientific" proof will be from the companies labs themselves...and they'll obviously be biased

what a silly topic, the question was answered adaquetly until freed opened up

do I also qualify as an illegal alien troller? I'll be an STL resident on August 1st
 
Please post my snide comments and then please explain and then please explain the other comments from the other members that were not warranted. Thanks.
 
Well here's one snide comment

Please post my snide comments and then please explain and then please explain the other comments from the other members that were not warranted. Thanks.

Why? Because you've been kindly asked to leave the conversation. Secondly, this thread is not made to talk about your comments. Take this conversation elsewhere please.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6909796#post6909796 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by latazyo
do I also qualify as an illegal alien troller? I'll be an STL resident on August 1st

All are welcomed here who can show some kindness, helpfulness and dignity. What Freed did was just wrong. You have been helpful and participated numerous times and that is the correct spirit.

I hope you enjoy this group and can't wait to meet you when you arrive and if you need help setting up, let us know. :-)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6909796#post6909796 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by latazyo
first of all why would any scientific institution (university) waste funds to study something for home aquarium use?

Some support for university science-related programs comes from corporate funding paid to the university to preform "unbiased" research for them. Universities also make money by developing and getting patent protection on new products, including pharamceuticals, and then selling them to the private sector.

They are great places for getting research preformed and they can educate students at the same time.
 
Sorry people. The immaturity and ignorance levels in this thread exceed my tolerance. I'm disconnecting from this thread and will not receive notices of any further posts.

I was answering StupidsReef's questions and situation. My time is more valuable than playing games.

:wavehand:
 
Freed - The tone of your original couple of posts came across a little rude which I suspect is what got some feathers ruffled, perhaps unnecessarily. After that I think you would agree that your responses were rude but quite possibly you felt attacked and were responding in kind. Obviously you are welcome to join in any thread you wish and this group welcomes any help someone wants to offer as well as any constructive criticism.

Letmegrow and others - While the tone of Freed's original couple of posts may have come off a bit harsh I think we all need to get tougher skins and learn not to get ourselves bent out of shape quite so easily. I think everyone ought to just let this thing go.

PLAY NICE CHILDREN!

zt44a - As to your question about someone taking legal action against companies that are misrepresenting products, I will answer it by asking you a question: When have you ever heard of a company being successfully sued for false advertising? Since we were kids we have all heard about this thing called false advertising as though any effort to mislead the public were actionable but the simple reality is that is nonsense. In order to successfully sue for false advertising one has to be willing to go up against a large operation's legal team which will bury most folks with documents. Mind you that is not a problem if at the end you get compensated for it when you prevail. Unfortunately, all you will recover is what you paid for the product - something less than $10. I can assure you that I have no qualms about sueing Kent Marine or GM for that matter. But I guarantee you I'm not doing it for 1/3 of $10! :) The only time you will see false advertising being pursued is between competitors. A couple of years ago SBC had an ad campaign basically saying that Charter Cable's internet connections were slow. Charter sued in federal court to get an injunction to stop the ads. That is the type of situation where false advertising comes into play, not over these types of cases. Sorry to disillusion you about the legal system.

Rob
 
Letmegrow, where did you learn your interesting knowledge of ich and what causes it and how it thrives and spreads?

I don't have confidence in your methods/procedures.

Where is there a tone in either of these? Simple question, simple statement.

You may read any tone into them that you wish but there was none. Like I said and what is read, simple question, simple statement.
 
Freed....no offense meant, but you did come off in an interesting
manner, and it seems you still are. So be it. As the good lawyer pointed out we do welcome all here, but do try and present your questions in a more friendly manner and people won't come down on you. You may not have meant anything sarcastic byt this statement..."Letmegrow, where did you learn your interesting knowledge of ich and what causes it and how it thrives and spreads?" but I can assure you it was taken that way.

If you do have anything to add to the original problem please do present it, otherwise I can see this one getting more heated and locked very soon and that really doesn't help now does it?
 
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