Help me set up a FOWLR

Redbellyjx

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Long story shot. I am in possesion of a free 65 gallon tank. (3 ft) My initial plan was a small reef in my bedroom to serve as a grow out tank for my 125 LPS/sps reef in the family room.

But I don't think I have the patience to care for a second reef. So before throwing out the tank, im considering a FOWL tank.

1. Stocking... I know most aggressive fish get pretty big, so if you could help me plan a stock list. I want this tank to be mostly aggressive fish

2. Equipment. This is where I'm totally lost. I know the equipment involved in a reef, but how much of that knowledge carries over to fish only tanks?

Along with the tank a got a free 20 gallon long which I already built a fuge out of to hold more live rock, macro algae, and the skimmer. Do refugiums even have their place in fish only tanks?

Besides live rock, and skimmer what type of filtration do i need?


Thats it for my questions, let me know if there's anything i missed. In the mean time I'll be looking at other peoples tanks to get ideas.
 
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Basically the same, you just need to ensure mechanical filtration to get the crap out of the water. And a good skimmer. a 65 is pretty much use less for a Fowlr tank if you want larger fish, maybe some a couple clowns and a pygmy angel, and smaller stuff.
 
65 gallon, 3 feet - you can do a lot with a tank this size. What kind of aggressives do you like?

1. Stocking
Do you want a tank with quite a few smaller fish, or one or two large "pet" fish with lots of personality? What's your budget like?

What kind of environment do you want?

I have a green wolf eel blenny in a 55 with other fish, have had it at least three years. Not a true eel, or a blenny, it's related to dottybacks. Very interactive, an aggressive eater, doesn't get huge, and doesn't bother the other fish in the tank. Less aggressive than I expected, as far as being a model citizen (a good thing).

Here are two good articles:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-04/fm/feature/index.php
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-04/hcs3/index.php

Some others you can consider - some compatible, some not:

Dwarf lionfish
Smaller hawkfish (like flame hawk, others)
Angler fish (best for species only)
Dwarf angelfish (coral beauty is a good one)
Some of the pseudochromids are small, feisty and colorful
Some of the smaller scorpionfish (I have Hawaiian leaf fish and waspfish)
Wrasses - plenty of small, colorful, feisty ones (I like six-line)
Royal gramma - peaceful and colorful, but plucky
Damsels - not my favorite, but they are colorful, cheap and aggressive
Filefish - a trigger won't fit, but there are some nice files that stay small
Sharpnose puffers - stay small, some are very colorful

This would also make an awesome seahorse tank.


2. Equipment. This is where I'm totally lost. I know the equipment involved in a reef, but how much of that knowledge carries over to fish only tanks?

Reefkeeping is all about maintaining good water quality. If you have that down, you should be golden with a FOWLR. The cleaner your equipment can keep the water, the healthier your fish and the less maintenance you will have to do. You don't have to worry about reef supplements in a FOWLR, but do keep an okay skimmer on the tank. Do partial water changes on a regular schedule and keep up with water quality. I'd have at least 1.5-2 lbs live rock per gallon. Lighting is only important for seeing the fish and growing whatever photosynthetic organisms you want (e.g., macroalgae, coralline algae, hardy soft corals and polyps, etc.). I think a FOWLR is enhanced with a few hardy corals and some macroalgae. It takes almost no effort to keep the hardier polyps and mushrooms healthy, and most fish won't touch them. I have power compact fluorescents on most of my FOWLR tanks.

This is my 55 gallon set-up:

BakPak protein skimmer
HOT Aquafuge refugium, lit 24/7 (full of chaeto)
Coralife 4 x 65-watt PC fluorescent fixture
Power filter (forget what it is, but it is a pretty big one)

~75 lbs live rock
2 inch shallow sand bed
several species of red and green macro
polyps, mushrooms, leather corals, Turbinaria

Stock:
-green wolf eel blenny
-pair of waspfish (very venomous)
-small blue spot rabbitfish (venomous) - growing up for larger tank
-small Niger triggerfish - growing up for larger tank
-small angler - must be moved soon, as it is growing fast (should be in species only tank)

This tank will change - once the angler and trigger are out, I'll add back my pair of Hawaiian leaf fish, maybe add another oddball small scorp, like a stingfish or a sea goblin.

Along with the tank a got a free 20 gallon long which I already built a fuge out of to hold more live rock, macro algae, and the skimmer. Do refugiums even have their place in fish only tanks?

DEFINITELY! Refugiums lit either on reverse cycle or 24/7 with macro are great filters and contribute a lot to the stability and health of a tank. You are using nutrient export to keep your water quality up. The plants take up phosphates and nitrates, when you prune/discard excess growth, you are exporting nutrients from your tank.

Besides live rock, and skimmer what type of filtration do i need?

I'd keep the refugium, and maybe keep some surface flow with a HOT power filter. This gives you the option to use chemical filtration if/when needed and helps keep the water well aerated. I usually run mine empty, but will add Purigen, or charcoal, or phosphate remover, whatever, if I need it.
 
wow lisa, your post really helped me. so i sounds like there are a lot of shared elements between reef and fish only, sans the supplements.

as for environment, i was thinking a few "pet fish" as you called it. my friend has a 90 gallon with only a few pieces of live rock and a lion and i love looking at his tank as much as i like looking at my reef. i want a similar setup.

i was looking at a stocking list. i know this is too much, but here are some fish that i liked:

saddle valentini puffer
snowflake eel
volitans lion fish
six line wrasse
longnose hawk fish


budget really isnt an issue. i have most of the equipment, i just need a decent skimmer. id be willing to spend $200-300 on the fish alone.
 
I think a dwarf lion would be bettere suited for your size tank. Violaton lions get fairly large, and depending on ur dimensions, you could run into size issues.
 
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