Help on sand choices for Display and RDSB

I highly recommend black. It's a bold move but it looks amazing and doesn't reflect nearly as much light as white. I got mine from a black sand beach but Carib sells black as well. Ive had crushed coral and fine white. Fine sand looks amazing in very low flow and won't shift easily but blows are around your tank and makes a mess in medium flow. I ditched my crushed coral because I have wrasses and they like to burrow. Black sand is my favorite. Look at some pics online and go with what you like. It's your tank after all.
 

Steer clear of anything saying "live" on it. One, it is tantamount to false advertising, as a heterotrophic bacteria colony does not really constitute live, as bacteria are ubiquitous. Two, "live" sand will be wet, not dry. Also, concerning the first product:

1) It will not buffer the pH. Aragonite will not dissolve, leach, or otherwise release anything into the water, at normal pH levels and temperatures, in an aquarium. That is why it is used. It is inert. Takes acidic conditions (carbon dioxide) to accomplish any of those tasks. (the ambiguous calcium reactor) This myth is based on the "clumping" that can occur in a sand bed. However the cause is bacterial secretions called "glycocalyx", not the dissolution of the substrate. (Same goes for silica sand, just sayin)

2) It will not supplement calcium. Same reason as above.

3) It will not supplement magnesium. Same reason as Number 1.

4) Would not worry about getting money back... I would not buy simply due to the false advertising.


The Aragamax oolitic, will not buffer the pH either, but at least they don't carry the mis-information quite so far. I have used hundreds if not thousands of pounds of this substrate... again just sayin.

Truth be told, if the substrate does not come in a bag mixed with some water, is of the proper grain size, you are good to go.
 
Steer clear of anything saying "live" on it. One, it is tantamount to false advertising, as a heterotrophic bacteria colony does not really constitute live, as bacteria are ubiquitous. Two, "live" sand will be wet, not dry. Also, concerning the first product:

1) It will not buffer the pH. Aragonite will not dissolve, leach, or otherwise release anything into the water, at normal pH levels and temperatures, in an aquarium. That is why it is used. It is inert. Takes acidic conditions (carbon dioxide) to accomplish any of those tasks. (the ambiguous calcium reactor) This myth is based on the "clumping" that can occur in a sand bed. However the cause is bacterial secretions called "glycocalyx", not the dissolution of the substrate. (Same goes for silica sand, just sayin)

2) It will not supplement calcium. Same reason as above.

3) It will not supplement magnesium. Same reason as Number 1.

4) Would not worry about getting money back... I would not buy simply due to the false advertising.


The Aragamax oolitic, will not buffer the pH either, but at least they don't carry the mis-information quite so far. I have used hundreds if not thousands of pounds of this substrate... again just sayin.

Truth be told, if the substrate does not come in a bag mixed with some water, is of the proper grain size, you are good to go.

I read about the glycocalyx... I believe it was equated to hard candy secreted by the bacteria. I was trying to pick sands as you had described earlier... aragonite and oolitic.... are these not right??? If not which ones??? Grain size seemed right.... the 125 described in Ron S's documentation, round grains....
 
I read about the glycocalyx... I believe it was equated to hard candy secreted by the bacteria. I was trying to pick sands as you had described earlier... aragonite and oolitic.... are these not right??? If not which ones??? Grain size seemed right.... the 125 described in Ron S's documentation, round grains....

Oolitic Aragonite. Does not matter really who packages it. Carib-Sea, SeaChem, or several others including no-name brands. It is all the same material, and oolitic refers to the grain size being "sugar fine," or the 0.125mm grain size. Here in the states, it all comes from the same source: top of the Bahama Bank, in the Bahamas. You are looking at the right products, I just don't care for the misleading advertising is all. :)
 
I would highly recommend tropic edens line of sands. If u want a smaller grain look at tropic Eden mini flakes. I have that in my 40 breeder & I love it. I have tropic Eden reeflakes in my 150 & I like it also. Reeflakes is a larger grain so it works great with higher flow tanks but I like the look of a smaller grain sand so for me I like the mini flakes better because of the smaller grain size. They have a grain size inbetween the two called mesoflakes that I almost wish I used in my 150 instead of the reeflakes. One thing about the reeflakes is it doesn't get blown around,I have a lot of flow in that tank & it doesn't budge.
I prefer dry sand also, plus u don't pay for the water weight so a 30lb bag of sand u actually get 30lbs of sand.
 
So am no expert.... but everything I've read says that for good bacteria growth you want to be around 0.125mm average grain size.

Here is an excerpt from Ron Shimek...

In all of my discussions about sand beds I have made a point of specifying one particular parameter, that of the average size of sediment particles in the sand bed. Why should this one factor be so important? The answer simply is that sediment particle sizes determine the acceptability of the sediment to the organisms. Perhaps an example might illustrate this statement better. One of the common amphipods found along the west coast of North America is a species called Rhepoxynius abronius . This small bug has been investigated in some detail as an organism to use to test the toxicity of sediments, has been found to prefer sediments of a specific particle size, 0.113 mm in diameter. If given a choice, it will move to and live in sediments of that one specific size, not sediments 0.110 mm nor sediments of 0.115 mm, but only of that one size. If individuals are experimentally confined to other sediment sizes, they neither live as long, nor reproduce as well, nor tolerate stressful conditions as do individuals kept at the optimum grain size (Ott, 1986).

Most sediment-dwelling organisms appear to have similar precise preferences. However, most will also live at least marginally well in mixed-sediments with sizes around their optima, and most sediment particle size optima seem to be in the range of 0.050 to 0.200. Consequently I suggest a range averaging about 0.125 as a good compromise. It isn't specifically the best for most infaunal species, but it will allow a diversity of species to live pretty well.

Coarser sediments such as gravel or crushed coral are simply too big. Additionally, they have the drawback of being sharp edges that are abrasive to many of the small crustaceans and worms that must crawl through the sediments. Finer sediments can pack so tightly together that they are impervious to most animal movement, creating a layer that restricts animal and water flow shutting down the biological filter.

Having to assess sands for particle sizes would be a daunting task for any hobbyist. Fortunately, however, several vendors sell bulk sands in the appropriate size ranges, often marketed as "sugar fine" or oolitic sands. A few larger particles in the sediment mix is okay, but larger sediments should not constitute more than about 15 percent of the total. Under NO circumstances should you use crushed coral or coral gravel. These substrates are too coarse and often too abrasive for many of the smaller organisms to survive in.

Thus, I question this product because the choices do not match this criteria.
Grain Sizes Available (please not, grain sizes may vary some to due collection and processing, but these are the general grain sizes):

Aragasnow - 0.5mm

Tonga Special Pink - 0.8mm

Miniflakes - 2.0mm

Mesoflakes - 2.7mm

Reefflakes - 3.0mm

Reefflakes Grand Select - 4.5mm

Glad you are happy with the product and thanks for causing me to think this through. I am going to stick with something closer to 0.125mm

M
 
For a dsb the sugar size is the best to use for sure, but in the dt it will get blown all over the place with any amount of flow in the tank. I would only use the sugar sized for the dsb but I wouldn't use anything less than 2.0mm in the dt.
 
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