help sohal tang eating aussie elegance

happyjack

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im not sure why but today my sohal started nipping my elegance coral it receded .but i have no idea how to get the tang to stop.any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated .i thought they were supposedly reef safe.he is housed in a 350 gallon with a japaneese dragon eel a saber squirell a stocky hawk fish and a redsea sailfin tang. i olny have lps and few non photosynthetic coral... thank in advance...
 
sticking along with this one had a similar problem with a Christmas wrasse. It did stop on its own but when I first put in the coral it was pretty regular don't know why but sure am curious why he picked so much with just this coral?
 
Lots of times 'reef-safe' fish will turn on a coral that's "on it's way out' and isn't in the best of health, even though, visually, the coral appears fine.



Note: when I say reef-safe fish, I mean honest non-coral eaters, not quasi-safe fish like Hippo Tangs....
 
If this doesn't apply here just ignore it.

Do you feed the tang enough? Can he browse at macro for a few hours a day especially if he's a juvie? Usually we underfeed - especially tangs. Doesn't always explain them going for coral but the occasions I've seen this, the fish usually hasn't been eating enough greens.

good luck!
 
Pull the tang...

Once he starts he more than likely will not stop. Since it is a tang, I must say I'm not surprised, however ad Aqua-Knight mentioned many fish will go after corals that are already "hurting."
 
thanks for the replies and ideas.i only feed meaty food every other day ,the tang sometimes picks krill from my dendros,and black sun coral when i feed them but very rarely i feed brown and green nori daily for the tangs and feed the corals when i feed the fish meaty foods (reef frenzy, cylpos and marine snow with krill bits and pe mysis)the tang is a good 10 inches .i could feed meaty food every day .


i have never heard of fish taking down non healty corals but i think thats a very interesting observation .i hope my corals are healthy and they do appear that way they are growing and appear visualy ok but i know elegance somtimes dies for no reason.my parameters are pristine. my calicium is a bit high @ 550 ppm .

if i have to "pull" the tang it would be because he/she has a taste for corals and starts eating any other coral.it would be much easyer to pull the elegance. and replace i have close to 400 lbs of live rock and that tang is fast and goes right into the rock at first sight of a net.i'll keep you posted and thanks again this forum is a great place to help figure things lik ethis out...




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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15156544#post15156544 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MatthewLaw
wow 400lbs of rock. how large is your tank??

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15154072#post15154072 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by happyjack
...he is housed in a 350 gallon...
 
Don't know if this is rellevent in your case, but I once found my orange shoulder picking on a scoly and got scared untill I got a closer look and saw that it was not picking the coral itself, but rather aiming a small piece of algea growing on the base of the coral.
Do you see any damage on the coral from his nipping?
 
I felt the pecking was from the new movement in the tank from the elegance. If he is just pecking might not be that big of deal . key word might ...
 
My purple tang took a liking to an elegance and killed it. I moved it and it didn't matter. I like the tang better and he's not bothered any other corals!
 
I realize this is an old thread but just experienced the same problem with the same fish (acanthurus sohal) and same coral (cataphyllia). My wife witnessed him take a decent size bite of it, including some tentacles. It was very healthy and opening nicely, now of course is ****ed off. I've temporarily covered the coral with a glass bowl supported by risers, so there is adequate flow, but the fish cannot reach it.

I've also noticed polyps from one of my euphyllia corals (branched frogspawn) floating in the tank, and twice have witnessed the same Sohal tang nip at it so he is the culprit. He did some damage to it so it is now relocated into the sump where it will hopefully recover. I have also seen him bite off a mouthful of green star polyps and nip at a neon sinularia. There is no question he went after the corals in these cases, rather than picking at adjacent algae as there was none and he had coral flesh in his mouth. I also saw him pick at a zooanthid rock, although in this instance the rock (a new addition) had a bit of algae on it so suspect he was after that. I've taken a photo of the zooanthid rock and will watch carefully for polyps disappearing.

Anyway I first got this sohal tang as a juvenile back in 2007, so he is 8-9 years old now. He is 8+ inches if you count his tail/streamers. He is a massive eater, a true pig, but fed very adequately including nori hung several times daily in a clip and always available in an AUQA grazer, plus whatever he can grab from LRS frozen food fed to the other fishes... plus occasional chunks of grocery seafood that he steals from the mento triggerfish, who is no sloth but yet considerably slower. The sohal is incredibly fast and very efficient at hogging food.

I'm hoping it is a passing fancy as I stock the tank with new corals, but if he continues I'm not sure what to do. I really don't want to give him up as he is gorgeous, I've owned him since he was a juvenile, and as these guys go he is reasonably mellow - he pesters the naso tang occasionally but generally leaves all the others alone and has never killed a new addition. But if he is going to continue to destroy corals then he's gotta go :( While it's not easy to catch a fish in a big reef tank, strangely if I set the LEDs to red only he goes berzerk, turns almost black, and cowers in a top corner of the tank! If I am prepared with a net I think I can get him; the other fish do not seem to care whatsoever about the red light, but for some reason it drives him absolutely crazy.
 
It's because Sohal's are psycho, particularly once they get big. Though I don't keep them anymore, when I did mine would always eat elegance. Don't really know why -maybe it looks like nori.
 
help sohal tang eating aussie elegance

It's because Sohal's are psycho, particularly once they get big. Though I don't keep them anymore, when I did mine would always eat elegance. Don't really know why -maybe it looks like nori.

I have to agree on that account. If I were a psychiatrist I'd say he sufferd from bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and antisocial personality disorder. Luckily he has not commited murder yet, just aggravated assault ;) Interestingly, despite unquestionably being the tank bully, he has gotten to taste a bit of his own medicine as the smaller naso is much more adept at using her tail as a weapon, and the laid back triggerfish knows how to use his teeth when he is getting pestered.

Here is the evil sohal with my protected cataphyllia. He developed HLLE while being held during the new tank setup, being in a way to small compartment and malnourished too. Once I saw him, I set up a 65g quarantine and got him back ASAP; wish I had done that from the beginning. He is gaining weight back and HLLE is slowly improving, fortunately. I've had him for 8 years old now, not sure typical life expectancy is but imagine barring major/typical aquarium problems it could be 20+ years...

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Mostly they ignore each other. Occasional squabbles over food - the trigger is very laid back and usually finds himself on the receiving end of any aggression. He has a long fuse and tends to withdraw into the rocks, but when he gets ****ed off the sohal takes the damage 😁
 
Mostly they ignore each other. Occasional squabbles over food - the trigger is very laid back and usually finds himself on the receiving end of any aggression. He has a long fuse and tends to withdraw into the rocks, but when he gets ****ed off the sohal takes the damage 😁

LOL nice!

Our Black Tang has a chunk of fin missing Saturday. I think he must have got in the way of food and the Crosshatches!
 
The mentos are beautiful and seem very peaceful. Neither seems to have any interest in corals/inverts, other than occasionally picking up hermits or snails to play with but they are subsequently dropped intact after a brief ride. The male will chase the tiny Midas and Tailspot blennies if he sees them - my wife insisted on getting them against my better judgement. Fortunately they are quicker and disappear into the rocks if they spot the huge make trigger coming their way... Hopefully they will get grow rapidly! Those little blennies have some real courage!

Also I added some cleaner shrimp after the triggers, they completely ignored them and in fact were getting cleaned within a few minutes!
 
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