Help with Frogspawn

Thalast

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Hi Everyone,

I hoping someone here can help me with this as I am starting to get worried. I admit that I do not know too much about corals as all my previous experience was with a fowlr tank. I just set up a 9 gal nano, the Aquamedic Nano Wave 9 infact, which I am not too impressed with but that is a different issue. The cycle on this tank has been completed for at least 1.5 weeks, clean up crew was added and everything was fine. I decided to order my first coral and a small colony of zoanthids. I ordered some frogspawn from Marinedepotlive and (from what I can tell) when it arrived the coral had receeded into its skeleton so far that the sharp edge had cut thru the plastic bag. It had been sitting in basically an empty bag at temperatures of under 70deg for probably 12 hours in a UPS store before I recieved it. (the bottom of the box being wet is generally not a good sign) I followed the instuctions they included in the box if something like this happened they said to just introduce it into the tank. As it was not in water there is no point in trying to acclimate it.

I did this and after biting my nails for several hours watching it, it seemed to be doing alot better. One of the branches had begun to fill out. Greatly relieved I went to work that afternoon and returned home to find it looking much better, 3 of the branches where showing decent growth However when I got up this morning and turned the lights on for the first time ( I had them off since introducing them into my tank) All of the branches had sunk back into its skeleton and looked almost as bad as when I first got it.

This my first ever coral, and it arrived in less than optimal conditions so I am very worried about about it dying on me. 3 of the 6 branches have had no change since I recieved them and the other 3 , one of which I though was doing extremly well, have all sunk back to where it ws when I first got it into my tank. Is this common? Does anyone have any advice?

the tank paramaters are
ph 8.2
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0.01
Nitrate 7.5
SG. 1.025

Thal
 
pics of the FS

pics of the FS

here are some pics of the FS, first just after I got it into the tank

FSoriginal2.jpg


This is at the end of the first day

FSday1.jpg


And this is what it has looked like when I woke up the next morning, it has been like this for the entire last day.

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Hopefully these pics work, this is my first time trying to post any.

Thal
 
sounds like ur coral is probably ok. Alot of corals dont expand until they get lights. Also some corals take a week to adjust to ur water before they would fully expand.
 
Mine all peeled off and now I have skeletons I would say there gone
but I have been told they may grow back they just look aweful in my tank. And I have the lights and everything . my nitrates where up a bit and they peeled I found out .
 
With them sucking in like that and showing all that skeleton, I don't think they like something in the tank. Froggies will stay out more than that with the lights off. Or, all the ones I have seen in the past 2 years do. Mine stay 1/2 way out with the lights out. I will say that they will take a week to 10 days to get used to their new enviroment but I've never had one suck way in like that. I'd double check those water parameters and pay close attention to KH (hardness). Good luck with the frog, we have over 10 in our tank!
 
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Thalast, It doesn't look good bro. What I would use to determine this is not just the tissue pulled way back into the base for extended time but also look at the tissue along the outside of the coral skeleton. You can see it is thinned and tattered looking. This coral was recently wild caught I suspect, and has been subject to a lot of transport stress. It may still make it. Just maintain stable water quality. Leave it alone and it may still make it. Your tank is small so dripping kalk is probably not an option, but IME this usually stimulates LPS to come out more. But you really have to make sure you are careful not to drop your salinity or raise pH to much in such a small system. Best just maintain your current water quality.
Why did you mail order it? There are lots of them available in SoCal both by LFS and fellow hobbiests.

If it doesn't survive shop around, go to a frag swap. There are frogspawn usually available. I don't have any available now, but perhaps in a few months I may! Good luck. It may still make it!
 
Did you try contacting Marinedepot regarding the shipping issue, see if you can get some credit or money back..
 
Well, The Frogspawn didn't make it :(

I came home form work last night find the tank totally clouded up and bits of the FS floating around the tank, and my snails and hermits eating what was left over. I did a 50% water change (all the salt water I had premixed) and checked the paramaters and the ammonia was still off the chart I had. I know that they can come back from some serious trauma but with my tank being so small, I was worried about it killing everything else. So it was removed.

I have not contacted marine depot live yet, but I am not too worried about the money, as it arrived with a few other things, hermits and zoos. Also their money back policy stats that you need a pic of the ruptured bag and the initial condition of the animal. I didn't take one as I was too worried about trying to save it.

SBV

The KH of my tank was at 2.9 at the time it was introduced (i think, I am at work and dont have my notes in front of me)

cediss:

I ordered it online because I was already ordering the hermit crabs, and some zoos, figured I would try and get them all at once.
 
You definately need to get that hardness up. I use Seachem Reef builder to get my hardness up and a 2 part to maintain it. Once you start bringing up the hardness you need to pay close attention to the calcuim. Sorry for the loss. Thats a bummer.
 
that sucks.. hopefully you can get a replacement from Marinedepotlive... they are one of the hardier softies around... so it must just be the transport that did them... but it is still good to check your hardness...
 
I'd say that low of KH did it.

Marine Depot has some GREAT corals. Here's a froggie we got from them about 3 months ago....

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Yea, Not sure it's the vendors problem. Please before adding anything to your tank check the parameters, this is a lesson for all of us! Very sorry for the lost of the frog.
 
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