Bodai
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Hello everyone,
I am ready to purchase one of the new Sicce Syncra ADV pumps. These are a new high-efficiency AC pump that is finally becoming available.
There are three models: 5.5, 7.0, and 9.0 with flow rates of 1500GPH, 1900GPH, and 2500GPH. The brochure is here:
http://sicceus.com/pdf/adv_%20Preview.pdf
OK, I have a 135G tank that I am setting up for Triton. So I want to hit at least 1350GPH of actual net output. My skimmer is a Lifereef 24 that I am going to extend to 36, and that calls for 1100GPH.
Using the calculator here: http://www.reefcentral.com/index.php/head-loss-calculator
I get a headloss of about 10', these are my assumptions:
- Vertical length - 5'
- Horizontal length - 3'
- Pipe dia. - 1"
- # of 90's - 2
- # of ball valves - 1
- number of unions - 1
My plumbing path will be:
- Pump -> 6" of silicone hose -> ball valve -> Apex 1" flow meter union -> "T" fitting level with top of tank at about 5' -> branch into 2 or 4 Lok-line nozzles. I will probably have a siphon breaker at the top rather than a check valve, but I could go either way. The skimmer just goes a couple feet of flexible hose to the venturi.
I am trying to decide between the 7.0 and the 9.0. The reason I am concerned is that, if I put a pump in the calculator such as the Mag 24 (2400 GPH) at 10' it is all the way down to just 1267GPH, and that is not including the back pressure from the Lok-line nozzles, because I am not sure how to calculate that. I used the Mag 24 as an example because it is a similar "style" of pump, the calculator does not have any Sicce pumps in it.
Similarly, I don't know what the back pressure of a venturi is, but I could see it being quite a bit of a restriction, probably I would still have at least 1100GPH from the 1900GPH it puts out with no head.
So, I am thinking of going with the 9.0 for the return pump, and maybe the 7.0 for the skimmer, hoping that I will be over what I need and I will do the best I can with the plumbing. Although having two 9.0's would give me a backup if one were to fail.
Ideally I would like to have enough left over to run the two possible reactors that Triton sometimes uses (AL99 and GAC), and I should because they require only a very slow flow rate. But if I am already "on the line" I may not have enough left over on the return pump. I would rather not use the skimmer pump, because I don't want to have to constantly adjust it.
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Thank you
-JCL
I am ready to purchase one of the new Sicce Syncra ADV pumps. These are a new high-efficiency AC pump that is finally becoming available.
There are three models: 5.5, 7.0, and 9.0 with flow rates of 1500GPH, 1900GPH, and 2500GPH. The brochure is here:
http://sicceus.com/pdf/adv_%20Preview.pdf
OK, I have a 135G tank that I am setting up for Triton. So I want to hit at least 1350GPH of actual net output. My skimmer is a Lifereef 24 that I am going to extend to 36, and that calls for 1100GPH.
Using the calculator here: http://www.reefcentral.com/index.php/head-loss-calculator
I get a headloss of about 10', these are my assumptions:
- Vertical length - 5'
- Horizontal length - 3'
- Pipe dia. - 1"
- # of 90's - 2
- # of ball valves - 1
- number of unions - 1
My plumbing path will be:
- Pump -> 6" of silicone hose -> ball valve -> Apex 1" flow meter union -> "T" fitting level with top of tank at about 5' -> branch into 2 or 4 Lok-line nozzles. I will probably have a siphon breaker at the top rather than a check valve, but I could go either way. The skimmer just goes a couple feet of flexible hose to the venturi.
I am trying to decide between the 7.0 and the 9.0. The reason I am concerned is that, if I put a pump in the calculator such as the Mag 24 (2400 GPH) at 10' it is all the way down to just 1267GPH, and that is not including the back pressure from the Lok-line nozzles, because I am not sure how to calculate that. I used the Mag 24 as an example because it is a similar "style" of pump, the calculator does not have any Sicce pumps in it.
Similarly, I don't know what the back pressure of a venturi is, but I could see it being quite a bit of a restriction, probably I would still have at least 1100GPH from the 1900GPH it puts out with no head.
So, I am thinking of going with the 9.0 for the return pump, and maybe the 7.0 for the skimmer, hoping that I will be over what I need and I will do the best I can with the plumbing. Although having two 9.0's would give me a backup if one were to fail.
Ideally I would like to have enough left over to run the two possible reactors that Triton sometimes uses (AL99 and GAC), and I should because they require only a very slow flow rate. But if I am already "on the line" I may not have enough left over on the return pump. I would rather not use the skimmer pump, because I don't want to have to constantly adjust it.
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Thank you
-JCL
