Hey Sam!Black clown question?

[GinaSofia]

What kinda clown is this?I believe it was sold to me as a true perc.Sorry for the bad pic.It's also from when he was only about 6-9 months old.

 

[Bebo77]

the orange clown is a false perc

the black clown is a black perc

 

[rbdesigns]

I'm not Sam, but it's a black variant ocellaris, false perc.

 

[Bebo77]

where is sam? he is lagging.... lol

 

[818]

Yea thats a false perc.

True Black Percs cost alot of money($150), The False Percs are in the $50 range. They had a cool post about this in the clownfish froum.

Nice pair Gina.

Sam

 

[GinaSofia]

Thanks,I should have clarified.Yeah, the black one was sold to me a black true percula..no such thing??

 

[GinaSofia]

SWF..LIES!!!Oh well,I can't tell the difference anyhow,thanks guys.

 

[Bebo77]

i have a black one just like that one that i got from gooliver...

 

[Bebo77]

how can you tell the difference between a true black and a false black?

 

[GinaSofia]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7861423#post7861423 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
how can you tell the difference between a true black and a false black?

yeah..good question

 

[Bebo77]

Saaaaaam?

 

[NicoleC]

The original picture is not good enough to positively ID either. The orange one *appears* to be a A. ocellaris, if the eye ring is muddy instead of intense orange, as it looks to me.

The black one, by the odds, is probably also A. ocellaris, tank raised. Wild caught black A. ocellaris are few and far between in the US.

 

[818]

Eye ring foo!

Meant WC though as well...Gabe how old is that clown on ur 1st pic. His face is orange still....

Nicoles eye Id'ing is by far the best! I use it all the time.

 

[rbdesigns]

Anyone have a pic of a black true perc? I have never seen one. Are they entirely black or only their face remains orange?

 

[818]

Ron check out teh Clownfish forum. I think one guy said he had pics in his gallery. That post is quite old and the forum moves just as fast as this one.

GL.

Sam

 

[Bebo77]

Nicole will an all black clown have a ring? in my pic all i see is black....

 

[818]

Gabe to start with...All your fish are freakishly large and mutated LOL!

 

[Bebo77]

lol i know it must be the water...lol

 

[818]

Gabe look close this is the best macro I can find. There is a outer brown ring. Ill c if I can find that thread on this.

 

[NicoleC]

I don't know about the eye ring on a black variant. I assume no, since they are already black, so a muddy tint wouldn't even show.

I would defer to JHardman or another clownfish guru on ID'ing them. I have heard multiple contradictory versions of how to tell them apart, and I don't know which is accurate. I believe that the "orange mouth" is not a definitive sign of either species. For example, TMC's black A. ocellaris are solid black and white -- no orange at all -- even as juveniles. Yet many black "A. ocellaris" are sold with the orange mouths.

TMC is the source of almost all the black A. ocellaris out there.