Hey Sam!Black clown question?
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NicoleC
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Well, we need to hold stores accountable for what they sell by species, be it fish or corals, so that they can be properly cared for. Most of the time they have no idea, because the collectors don't know either.
In the case of A. percula vs. A. ocellaris, it doesn't matter much since they are so alike in care and behavior. (Unless you are raising babies.) Some people get hung up on the common name of "true percula" like it means it's a real fish and A. ocellaris is not.
Then again, some people will spend $500 on a soon-to-be-brown coral frag with a good marketing name. Go figure. They are usually the same ones who complain they can't afford a backup battery or generator.
NicoleC
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There isn't a large enough gene pool of black A. ocellaris in captivity, and the fish are getting deformities like smashed faces and underbites due to inbreeding. WC black pairs are in desperate need among breeders but hard to get out of Australia and harder to ID since most of the TR blacks come from Oz, too.
Gabriel, it is very unlikely you have WC A. ocellaris. They are just too rare in the US. Not impossible, but unlikely.
818
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Nicole yep. Interbreeding tank bred Blacks as u said get smahed faces. Plus they more than likley come out misbared.
The ones at marine center are said to be bred from a WC pair they got from AUS. I just skimmed through it but not 100% sure. But that one at marine center looks beefy like a WC one.
Ill catch u guys later...Im heading off to the GYM.
The ones at marine center are said to be bred from a WC pair they got from AUS. I just skimmed through it but not 100% sure. But that one at marine center looks beefy like a WC one.
Ill catch u guys later...Im heading off to the GYM.
NicoleC
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"True perc" and "false perc" are common names, like nicknames. The problem with common names is that they mean something in one place and a different thing in another. So what does it mean when a fish is labelled a "percula?" (Probably A. ocellaris, not A. percula.) How about a "nemo fish?" (Probably A. ocellaris in the US, probably met with blank stares in Japan.)
If I ask you what kind of dog you have, and you say "a brown dog" or "Rover," would that accurately ID the dog to a person who has never seen it?
Gina may have been told she had a "percula," or some other nonsence common name, and she understood the name to mean one thing while the person who said it meant another. Or there was a language barier -- or possibly it was just a lie.
Amphiprion ocellaris and Amphiprion percula are the scientific names for specific species of fish. They are the same everywhere in the world, sma espelling, same pronounciation, and they mean the same fish. In general, it's a good idea to use scientific names, at least as a qualifier, whenever known. Limits confusion.
NicoleC
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Quite possibly -- captive clowns fed a healthy, varied diet one or more times a day eat WAY better than their wild cousins, and they also don't expend calories hiding from predators or competition, protecting their anemones and darting out for food.
Size is not usually an exact inheritable trait, but if you raised healthy babies and fed them a similarly healthy, frequent diet they would have the possibility of getting to their parent's size or even larger. Clownfish continue to grow (although at a slower rate) as they age.
All my fish get big, too. We probably feed too much! The breeder who took my clowns was astonished at their size, especially the male, but didn't know enough about yellow watchman gobies (C. cinctus) or he would have dropped his teeth at their size.
