High Tech, Low Tech or No Tech ???

MUCHO REEF

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If 10 people purchased a new car, each would most likely have the basics, wheels, an engine, windows, seats etc. Yet each of those vehicles would have diverse options both internally and externally for our own specific needs, taste and desires. I guess the same holds true in reefing. Each of us have the basics, a tank, stand, lights, water, live rock etc. Yet some of us have more selective options and truly believe they are a must to meet, achieve or exceed our own specific objectives, personal gratification, as well as a means to a successful and thriving reef tank.

Some of us have dedicated biotopes which cater to the specific needs of zoanthids, palythoas and proto palythoas only, yet some will have a diverse mix of soft corals, LPS and SPS etc. We have our books, forums, experience and our own anecdotal logic and reasoning behind what we do and don't do within our tanks. Some believe in lots of technology and feel it is a must to have, such as skimmers which are so big and powerful, they look like NASA built them. Or maybe a controller, so powerful they can turn on your lights, create oscillating current, feed junior and flush the toilet all at the same time. Maybe you have digital gadgets which checks and monitors your parameters and everything else with just an eye glance to know you're dead on spec wise, or an alert sent directly to your PC or cell phone if there's a perceived issues arising. Or maybe you have ATO, GFI or a TKO? Not necessarily bad things.

Maybe you're Low Tech, with an efficient/inefficient skimmer with a single screw setting that's a HOB or in sump drop in, very little automation, a few white timers for your lights that you picked up for $ 5.00 at the corner store. Unlike the fancy titanium in sump heaters with digital red light read outs, you have a glass heater in your tank or sump and a few power heads which are plug n play. But if you're Little to No Tech, you have even less.



So the question is this.

1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech?

2. Why, explain?

3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have?

4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals?

5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed?


No need to limit your answers to the above questions. I hope this becomes a discussion and not just a Q & A.


Mucho Reef
 
I have a 300 gal mixed reef, SPS, LPS, zoa's & palys & a couple of green leathers, I have an old school euro reef skimmer & run a large geo calcium reactor. so not on the real high tech side but consistent with bi-monthly water changes, good old IO salt. Main thing is consistency, keep good water, good lighting & flow & things seem to work out good, I find changing all the time causes more grief for reefers than anything else, just be consistent.
Also I have some what I think are older fish in captivity, a pair of percs who still spawn regulary, they have been hangin out for around 12 years now along with a very large heteractis anemone who is approaching 20" plus, 5-6 yr old naso, powder blue 4 yrs plus along with other older residents.
 
Low tec... Tank. PH.(Hydor 4) Live Rock. Led Lighting. Livestock... No heater No Filter/Skimmer. Week and a half water changes.. I feed fish. Fish feeds the corals zoa's and palys.. Everyone leaves the theater grinning.
 
verging on hi-tek

auto zeo rx getting made as speak
dosing pumps getting ordered for zeo dosing
cone skimmer

wish list for future
profilux to control everything
auto WC (need a new place for this tho)
auto feeder for live brine (still in concept stage may take ages as am lazy)
 
Low tech.
No controlers
No Calcium reactor ( only 2 part )
Still using VHO's
No top of the line equipment ( vortechs, BK skimmer)
No dosing pumps ( all done manualy)
Nothing happen automatic ( including feeding, top off )

I think low tech can be a positive thing. Not that I wouldn't have all the gagets if I could afford them, but I have heard too many horror stories of peoples tanks crashing after something went wrong with a dosing pump, controler or auto top off. Low tech systems get more attention in alot of ways cause you have to do everything the old fashioned way but its a more hands on and involved way. It goes both ways though, cause everyone gets to points in their life that cause their tanks to be neglected. I know I let my tank go for a while right after both of my kids were born. An auto top off and an automatic fish feeder would have benifited my tank big time during those times. Regardless of the gagets and high tech equipment there are many ways to build a sucessful reef tank. You'll get as much out of this hobby as you put in. If you dont believe me check out the for sale treads of people selling all the best equipment at a fraction of the origal cost because they dont have the patience and time. You can have all the money in the world and buy all the expensive stuff but its not gonna take the place of the time you put in.
 
+1 aquaph8, I agree on the low tech approach. I don't think there is a wrong answer either way, it's personal preference I'd say.




1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech?
I have always been very low tech.


2. Why, explain?
I turn my tank and fug lights on and off manually. No controllers, no ATO, make up water is poured in slow via he fug and just now upgrading some old modified PH's for the new system.


3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have?
I would say so. Many here have achieve that I think. I don't think High Tech is vital for a successful reefing experience, it can sometimes make things easier. But as aquaph8 said, if and when things malfunction, you can have a mess on your hands. I think Low to No Tech puts you more hands on.


4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals?
Low to No Tech seems to put me more in tune with visual inspections on a daily basis, more log entries, I can rule things out quicker by knowing everything that goes in, when, where and how much.


5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed?
With a tank full of SPS, I would think you'd need more High Tech as they are a more sensitive and delicate coral to keep than zoas and palys which can be marginally forgiving.
 
1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech?
I would say that my tank is a combo of high and low tech, so mid-tech, medium tech?


2. Why, explain?
I invested in an Ati light fixture, Vortech mp20, Ada tank, cpr refugium, and an aquaclear 30. However, I turn the fuge light on and off manually, top off the water morning and night, and change the water every week.


3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have?
I believe that you don't have to get all of the latest equipment to have a great reef but you need the essentials to keep the reef thriving. With my reef I wanted to a nice rimless tank because I didn't enjoy the black trim around my previous tanks, a good powerhead to keep sps and the mp10 wasn't out at the time, good light for the sps, filter for the zoas in my tank and cut down chemicals, fuge to also help with nutrients.

4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals?
For the most part I have had a positive experience with my tank. I probably spend a hour or so looking for new things everyday and admiring all of the colors of the coral I keep. I take pride in taking care of my tank as it gives me something to share with others. The only thing that I don't particularly enjoy is worrying about leaving my tank for more than a week or my addiction to adding more and more coral, costing me more and more money. lol

5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed?
Yeah I believe so but to a certain point. I keep sps but I don't have a skimmer, granted my tank is only 18g, but I have 2 fish. I think keeping a fish tank is all about balance. Balance between too much work and too little work, bioload, money, obsession, etc. It is a hobby, something to enjoy, not something that a person should have to worry about day in and day out, I enjoy it but my life doesn't evolve around it.
 
Without question my little 5.5 gallon tank is NO/LOW-TECH! I am a machinest and my day job is in plastics so I made a little built-in refugium for my tank. It has two chambers, one for a MAx-Jett 600 pump and heater and the other has a big ol' hand full of Chaeto and a chunk of Blue Ball macro a cool local reefer gave me. Light is just a Current USA with 36 watts of power PC's. I am only keeping zoas/palays and ric's at this point as that is what I built it for. I do think you would need alittle more tech in a system to keep SPS's etc. I test once and a while and do bi-weekly water changes...ok so it might be every 3 weeks or so sometimes. I do feel a stable system can sometimes be better than a high tech one.
As for growth and color, well again my low tech is working great for me. My tank has been running for less than a year and a half. In the pics the yellow zoas you see started out as a couple of polyps. Seem to be growing good for me...color looks pretty bright too!!! So good I didn't even have to PhotoShop the pics!!! As for the reddish/orange polyps with white center....same thing started as a freebie single "trash" polyp and has grown so much my tank is over run with frags of them....ANYONE LOCAL IS WELCOME TO A FREE FRAG OF THEM!!!COME AND GETTEM'!!!!

You don't have to have the best most expensive set up to have something you can be proud of ....some times people forget that I think.
 

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I will play along since this is for discussion and learning vs. other areas.

So the question is this.

1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech?
Little to low

2. Why, explain?
The system I am building right now will have one PH for flow, one for the sump (will probably have some cheato at least so throw in another light), heater, the ability to ATO but will not use it unless I am out of town on vacation, no dosing and simple weekly WC for nutrient export and supplement replacement.
The only high tech item I will have will be lights and I am leaning towards LED for heat issues, cost break point is at one year for bulb replacement and less energy and it goes along my “experiment”.
3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have?
It is a combination I believe though you can have one and be missing another. The tank can be healthy with great water parameters good coloration and polyp extension but be lacking in growth. The lack of growth could be the nature of the beast or something that is missing. Maybe HGH IS in order then……
Personally of those parameters the least important is growth. I would rather have a healthy reef that gets one or two additional polyps per month vs. a brown out system that gets 20 new polyps each week.

4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals?
I think that one reason why many quit the hobby is it is more of a daily chore than it is for enjoyment. People expect an increase of 200 polyps per month or they see certain other tanks and figure they cannot live up to that “standard”.
Personally three of the most important tools any reefer can have are their eyes, the ability to make connections and correlations between their system and if it is succeeding or failing and of course patience. Reefing should be a lesson in slowing down and enjoying what you have instead of ok what am I going to do next week? .
This hobby has people from all walks of life, job background, and financial levels. Yes money and equipment can make things easier but the “more successful” reefers are the ones that use those tools.

5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed?
No because you can find just about any type of tank in the sub forums with all the bells and whistles doing well or poor and on the other end minimal approach with the same results. How the reefer got there is the only difference. Which one is the better or more successful reefer? It maybe the one who enjoyed the journey and not just the destination.

No need to limit your answers to the above questions. I hope this becomes a discussion and not just a Q & A.
 
My 12g nano is low tech, we have not added any equipment. Zoas do well in there. Our 20g and 30g are probably mid tech. Neither tank is plumbed, we run HOB skimmers and fuges.

A friend of mine decided to take his tank from low tech to high tech and his zoas struggled. He put them in a seperate tank with a HOB filter and T5 lights and they exploded in growth. He does almost nothing to the tank and his zoas are taking over the whole tank.
 
1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech?
I'm on the middle end.

2. Why, explain?
My tank is drilled, run the basics (heater, koralias, oversized skimmer, heater.) my lights (ho t-5) are on timers (more lazy then techy :thumbsup:)

3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have?
i'm still new so i'm learning as i go, as for zoas they seem the most tolerant of mistakes and fluctuations. I think if you have good flow nice lights and keep the tank moderately clean your zoas will thrive. The reason i run a skimmer is for my fish. I've talked to alot of people who don't even run a filter on their zoa tanks. I choose to more middle, in case i wanted to do a mixed reef. I'm good i love my zoas.

4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals?
I like making sure i have whats needed. All my stuff has made the transition from fish only to reef easier. Now i know some of us have crazy setups but i keep mine a little more simple, i view my tank risk and reward LOL I like spending $ on live stock but i don't want a tank setup to run more than my livestock in the tank. I love this hobby because every year they are coming up with new inventions and tweaks to better us as reef keepers. The companies imo are making it easier for new b's and seasoned vets succeed with their reefs.

5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed?
Yes, i know some corals need the metal halides, which in turn means you have to run fans, its just like Newton said : "for every action, theres an equal and opposite REACTION." Different corals have different needs and that means more equipment, and list goes on. I love my Z's and P's, out of all the corals, i've found they're the most low-tech.
 
Half/half....
low tech: no sump, aquaC remora skimmer, no controllers, no reactors, simple timer for lighting, two part BRS dosing

high tech: LED lighting

Don't think it matters too much as far as the technology, you can go high tech and make your life simpler as far as the maintenance aspects.

Keep SPS, LPS and zoas along with 3 fish a cleaner shrimp and crocea clam.

Bioload drives my maintenance, I could probably get by easier if I would lighten up on the bioload. I don't think it (bioload) drives the tech level you need, but it definitely drives the maintenance (waterchanges, Ca & Alk additions, etc...)
 
LOW tech....or, ''common sense".

15 LEDs (45watts) on a 10gal standard - my color mix - not somebody elses. No retarded controllers or dimmers. Lights are on simple $6.00 timer.

No skimmer. I keep fish bioload low enough where nitrates aren't a problem. Hood and top glass (I cover my tank) made from scrap pieces. I two part dose when I can remember. I test alk - nothing else. pH is an indirect result of other params, and you should be looking at those other params. Calcium rides where it wants according to alk.

Cheap in tank heater that actually works.
 
Mine is pretty low tech except for my rke, but really all I use that for is my lights. Mostly large volume and lots of pumps. Technically I have a carbon reactor, if you count a gutted cheapo skimmer as a reactor. I'm usually to lazy to test as well.

I like my cars that way as well, which is why I still drive a '66 Dodge dart. Nothing to go wrong, and still gets 30 mpg.
 
1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech?

Low tech.

2. Why, explain?

I use a Vortec for movement and wave, and Auto Topoff, everything else like dosing and wc are manual.

3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have?

Should be. as long as we arrive at the same results who cares the method.

4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals?

Higher/random flow with vortec - Good
ATO stuck on once - Bad


5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed?

Nahh, regular water changes is the easiest and yet the no tech approach that simply works.
 
1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech?

High tech.

2. Why, explain?

Vortechs, ATO, 2 part and carbon dosing automatically, RKL for heating/cooling and for light control: sunrise, high noon, midday, and sunset, LED lights, solid carbon reactor

3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have?

I have kept low tech tanks successfully, but no matter how hard I tried, I still had stability issues. Plus I wanted to be able to leave my house for a weekend or more without worrying. (I still worry!)

4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals?

I love having a high tech tank, but I do not fully trust it. I am frequently checking it for flaws. Potential flaws: my ATO can dump the 10g reservoir into the sump when stuck- mildly annoying. The doser will not restart after a power outage. I could overdose carbon if I am not looking for the warning signs and testing the water.

All that being said, I am still glad that I went high tech this time. I have a little more time to enjoy my tank and focus on other maintenance tasks more often such as skimmer maintenance, glass cleaning, fragging, eliminating aiptasia, majano, and small spots of nuisance algae. Besides, when I was manually dosing I kept missing doses and second guessing myself. I started to think I was becoming OCD.


5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed?

Low tech tanks can be extremely successful, especially with low bioloads and religious maintenance. I still haven't decided if my previous low tech tanks were surviving on pure dumb luck or skill on my part.
 
High tec because my schedule demands it.

55 gallon cadlights which I have highly modified. I have two drilled returns to 1 inch with 1 inch eductors. Two drilled drains to 1 inch. A Bubble Magnus Skimmer that I modified with a Bubble Blaster pump. Three vortech MP10's for internal flow. An ATO which has automatic valves and kill switches. I have an oversized modified calcium reactor and GFO reactor. Lighting is provided by two Aqua Illumination units. Finally, all of it is controlled by a Reef Keeper Elite.

It is basically highly automated.
 
So the question is this.

1. Would you consider your tank to be High, Low or little or NO Tech? I would consider my tank low tech.

2. Why, explain? The only automation on my tank is light timers for the LED's. I want to make this a little advanced so it will dim automatically, but that's a DIY that's still in the works. Otherwise it's just a sump setup, with a fuge and skimmer, change water and feed. It's happy and healthy.

3. Can good growth, coloration, a happy healthy and thriving [zoa] reef tank, etc etc etc, be achieved with or without one or the other? Is it vital to have or not have? I believe that as long as you have solid base components, it can be achieved with either low or high tech. I've only lost one coral since starting 7 months ago, and that was when I switched to LED's, and melted a frag from it being to high.

4. Please share how having or not having the above has enhanced or resulted in a decline of a positive reefing experience as it relates to your tank/corals? I've seen too much technology cause major headaches. I personally like to have a great monitoring and alerting system, but no automation, I like to be hands on when I'm dealing with water specs. KISS method for me.

5. Would you say the type of corals kept, whether solitary or mixed and bio load determines ones Tech level needed? No. What it all depends on is how much attention you can pay to your tank and how much time are you willing to devote to it each week.


No need to limit your answers to the above questions. I hope this becomes a discussion and not just a Q & A.


Mucho Reef
 
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