HOB overflow question.

tikalize

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Iam about to purchase a overflow box for my AGA 80 gal tank. I wanted to go with the dual drains because i have read that 2 are better than one just incase if one U tube lost suction i have a little insurance that the other will keep draining. I see one on fleabay rated @ 1200 GPH. Here is the question: iam building a large sump/fuge but only a 600 gal pump. I know that the ovflw will only skim @ the rate of what is returned but is this overkill with such a large ovflw? What would be a better setup/ Thanks in advance ;)
 
I have 2 for sale if you are intersted. I doubt the fleabay one can actually to 1200gph. What will happen if you dont have a large enough pump is that one will eventually break it's syphon if you dont have them perfectly aligned to the same level. Mine I think are rated at 600 gph each and I was able to keep both of them going with a Mag7. I've moved on to a drilled tank which is better imo.
 
All you need to do is set up one drain with durso or what ever makes you happy. Just put a piece of straight pvc in the other drain. Cou it so that it sits about 1/2 inch above the normal water level in the overflow. If the main drain plugs up, the water will rise and run into the straight pipe. It will probably make noise os you know something is wrong. Good insurance.
 
i wish i had a drilled tank.LOL But i couldnt find one big enough to swim around with my livestock that fits my budget :)
 
Thanks bassnman11 for the input, if that will work i guess i have to just buy one and have it sitting in front of me to see exactly what you are describing. (Being that i have only seen a pic of one & briefly held one @ the local LFS......lol but having a little plumbing knowledge it make perfect sense
 
I have some pics of my tank that i would like to share but.. when i i try to upload them to my RC gallery the file size of just ONE pic exceeds my 50k limit. Any ideals on how to post? ( i have turned this into a pic size reduction post.Lol) But please lets not stay away from my original question. Iam all ears. Thanks.
 
I wouldn't worry about getting a dual in case one of the siphons break. If it is set up correctly, the siphon simply won't break. The two conditions to ensure an easy night's sleep and a worry free day at the office are proper flow and wrapping gutter-guard netting around the siphon inlet, extending it all the way to the bottom of the internal box so a turbo snail or such can't crawl into the tube. You can secure the gutter guard w/ nylon ties. You may search for documented instances of a conventional HOB round tube siphon breaking its siphon and causing a spillage disaster all on its own - but I don't think you will find any, I've been looking and asking, and veteran online reefers can't come up with a single name, place or date this has ever happened to anyone. Just a reefing urban legend due to paranoia. Of course you should place something above the inner box to block out direct light from the tank lamps, and clean aglae build up from inside the tube regularly, but even a thick layer of scum won't break the siphon. If you get a dual siphon model and your return pump doesn't provide sufficient flow-thru, allowing bubbles to accumulate, then you will have a disaster, not the other way around. On a single, if you have too much flow, you can throttle back w/ a valve on the pump's outlet. If you get the double and your pump isn't up to the job, you can just pull one of the siphons out and set it aside for when you upgrade to a larger tank. Having the larger inner box from a dually will give you more leeway in terms of algae build up between the teeth strainers.

Good luck.
 
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This tank is in my closet. NO ROOM FOR A BIGGER TANK RIGHT NOW :(

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Good info PsychoKnight....... By the way i have 2 250w PFO pendants with 14k Pheonix DE HQI bulbs on Icecap 250 hqi ballast ,2 Uri 110w atinics on a PFO ballast & endcaps, 140 pounds of LR (Fiji & Marshall) 120 pounds LS. Iam Building my sump/fuge soon
 
I know iam asking more questions that can be answerd in one sitting but......My sump that iam building goes as follows: From left to right. Inlet,skimmer,fuge,return. I already have a 90 gal acrylic tank that iam gonna glue some baffles in & set beside the maintank. ( i know you might be thinking a 80 gal main & a 90 gal sump/ fuge. But hear me out lol. I was gonna buy a 700 to 800 GPH return pump & a dual overflow about 1000 to 1200 ghp because thats all i have seen that are dual. i want to get rid of these powerheads in my Main so i was gonna buy one of those SCWD Squidds and by a pump for a closed loop to run it. Iam doing the plumbing my self. FINALLY THE QUESTION (drum roll please......) Would it be better to get a large external pump ( because the ones that i seen are @ least 100 watts min. & 2 internal equals or exceeds that with the unwanted Heat) & split the return for circulation or get 2 pumps, the return with low gph for the sump/fuge & a second larger pump for a closed loop setup? Thanks. (Jepordy Music.........:)
 
Go with smaller return and larger closed loop. By the way, your tank setup looks great, you really do just need a sump now...and the 90gal sump/fuge idea is AWESOME!! Just keep the fuge area as large as possible. My ideal setup is a 300g display with 100g sump, 300g fuge. I would run the fuge at the end and return in the middle so that the fuge doenst have to take all of the flow. Keep the flow minimal in there and pods/macros will flourish

PM sent, I have all the equipment you are looking for just laying around here.
 
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