homer1475's Biocube 29 Build Thread

My only question on the baffles was the space between the baffles. I've read 1", 1/2", 2", etc, etc.......

I went with 1/2" to maximize the fuge space. Also did an over - under - over instead of under - over - under, with the glass I had this worked out better. I know the idea behind the last baffle being an under to avoid running the return dry, but I fail to see the logic in that. Once the baffle section is dry, the return will still be dry also.

You mean like MS paint? Yeah good luck with that. My experience in paint is applying it to walls, not on the PC. :D

Interesting topic - on the baffles. I've never given thought to the design much but once you mentioned the last baffle as and under or over...i see where the under seems better in theory, initially, but it also makes sense once the baffle section before the return is dry..the return pump section will also be dry...

Having the under rather than over seems to me like it will give you much more time before the return does get dry...and secondly especially for bigger tanks....who have huge sumps, if they had an entire huge section before the return section full of water but it didn't have enough to "tip over" then the return section would dry quickly (I guess there would need to be a blockage or some other error going on) ....and so by having it under....some of these sumps probably could use the under so that errors or problems have more time to work out or be fixed before a dry return section occurs...

On the smaller tanks like mine..my sections are small either way...mine has the under over under....

other than what can dry faster....I don't know how fluid dynamics or particles movements do better or worse for either which way a sump is designed.
 
After debating it with soul in my other build thread, and doing some more reading and looking at prebuilt sumps, I decided to cut them out and do only 2 baffles. They will be an over under setup. This allows me more room in the fuge section as well as giving me 2" space between the baffles, which gives more room to clean between them.
 
Yes exactly Fuge and marine pure in the middle. Input and skimmer in the first, fuge second, return third. Classic sump design.
 
2 300W finnex titanium heaters will be in the middle section, or return section. They will fit in either, just not sure on placement until I get it fully running. I'm thinking middle as that can never run dry, and my probe holder in the return section.
 
doesn't matter where probes are though if you have them around a heater yu have to be careful that they are not too close so that they read actual water temp and not just that of the locally heated water.
 
Thats why i keep mine in the return/skimmer section. So that its getting constant flow from DT which is the water I want to maintain at the correct heat. I worry that a large DT of cold water...water heated just enough to the return section to make the grade....would then be fed into the DT and would be neutralized by it.....but if flow is probe...heater...return pump....then for the probe to get a high temp from constant new water...that constant water has to be hot to maintain the probe reading....but honestly the degree of variance wherever probe is put probably is negligible. i was concerned with my salinity probe and ph....being in 1st section too...but maybe i'm overthinking as usual...
 
I think your just overthinking it. I have my PH, and Temp probes in the last chamber in the biocube. Been fine that way for over a year now.

That being said, I will put a second Temp probe somewhere in my DT(thinking maybe the overflow so its hidden), just so I have real time temp on the sump and DT. This way I can adjust the temp as need be.

I've never had a tank with a sump before, so this is all new to me, and I could quite possibly be overthinking it also.
 
Wow had to dig this thread out of the archives. 6 pages back!

Well the cube is doing good with the exception of blueberry star polyps exploding everywhere.

On the new build front, I finally got the sand and rock in the tank. Quite happy with the aquascape, and I don't think I'll be reusing the rock from my cube(want to avoid the pests I have).

 
So After hijacking everyone elses thread, I guess I should stop and make my own build thread. Just keep in mind I'm already 3 months into my "Build".

Lets start off with a little background on myself and the experience in the hobby.

When I was a young boy(think I was 8), I remember going to a bait and tackle shop with my grandfather(my parents got a divorce before I was 3, so my grandparents pretty much raised me), and seeing all the bait fish in a tank, and the bait store had a small FW tank with some guppies in it. Thinking this was the coolest thing I had ever seen, I was bitten by the bug.

A few short months later I started my first 30G FW tank(which I still have and has survived many many moves). flash ahead 10 years and I was bitten by the SW hobby when my LFS started selling SW stuff and setting up his own tank. Back then not a lot was known about SW like it is now, so we basically set up "reef" tanks which for the lack of a better term is what we call a FOWLR tank now. Started with 55g tall tank, all went well for the most part for 3 years until we had a huge microburst which killed power for several days. I had several anemones, several feather dusters, a dwarf lionfish, a mated pair of perculas(hella expensive back then), a panther grouper, scooter blenny, and a mandarin dragonnet(didn't know any better back then, and my LFS just wanted to sell me stuff). Long story short, after the power outage, I lost the entire tank and was done with the hobby. When your in your twenties, several thousands of dollars loss was too much for me, and since we rented, a generator wasn't an option.

Flash ahead 20 years(Of course I now own my home and have a generator as we loose power quite frequently), and again I was bitten by the SW hobby, and talking to my LFS on tank options, I settled on an AIO as so much in the hobby has changed I figured this was the easiest option(didn't even know these things existed). I was torn between the redsea tank, and the biocube. For the price difference I went with the biocube, since I knew I would be replacing/adding my own stuff, and probably tossing all those "extras" you get with the red sea kit. So I started with some videos I followed on youtube about setting up a biocube. Threw out the bioballs(knew those were junk before hand), bought the aquatic life 115 skimmer, a couple hydor korralia 425's, kept the stock lighting for now, neotherm heater(fits in the last chamber), some sump sponges, 40L of seachem matrix media, couple media bags, reef crystals salt mix, 45 pounds of live rock from several LFS's and god forbid, PETCO, 35 pounds of caribsea live sand, and some RO/DI water.

Did the shrimp cycle method(we used to do fish cycle back in the day). Tank cycled in as little as 3 weeks with all the actual live rock and sand. My first inhabitant was a small zoa frag I bought at PETCO(keep in mind my now LFS is a 2 hour drive and petco is only an hour, the LFS I use for FW doesn't handle much SW and really doesn't have the knowledge I crave). I then did some digging on the net for fish I wanted and came across this site, so glad I did, this is a great place for the beginner and advanced hobbyist alike!!! So after joining and reading a few nano threads I decided to join in and (sorry again clown) I ended up hijacking someone else build thread that was doing the same exact thing I was, and setup his tank right around the same time( show clown some love and visit his thread, there is a ton of info for beginners on nano tanks in there. Clownfish's Build Thread) I found a wealth of information from reading and asking question around here. Again this is a wonderful place with many helpful members who are more then willing to share their knowledge. Just a few along the way that have helped me include but certainly not limited to, sk8tr, snorvich, soulpatch, clownfish, Barryv, muchoreef,(sorry if I spelled any ones nick wrong) and I'm sure many more I can't think of right now.

All is going well as planned(fingers crossed it stays that way), have added several pieces of equipment, re aquascaped a couple times, and god help me, I seem to be getting a grasp on this hobby and what it takes to keep things going well.

I can tell you from experience, first thing anyone wants to do with a biocube, dump the bioballs, false bottom, right angled return(just use a little longer hose, you won't believe the flow difference), the stock "fan" return(lok line will work with the stock "plug" on the back wall), and do not pay attention to the level marks on the side, those are for the recommended levels with the bioballs.

Ok enough with the BS, I know everyone wants to see the tank pics and its inhabitants. So without further ado.....

First shot of the tank, already have my CUC in there as well as my very first coral(small zoa frag).


After I aquascaped several times and decided on this setup. I believe at this point I have my hammer, cleaner shrimp and maroon clown.


So here is some current photos of my tank

My frogspawn


Hammer


Couple feather dusters/tubeworms


Beautiful Gorgonian my wife just had to have.


Couple zoa/paly frags, and Pulsing Xenia.


And a complete tank shot.


My current inhabitants are as follows:
1 flame angel
1 maroon clown
Brarium Gorgonian
2 Hawaiian feather dusters
2 frags of zoas(no Idea on the ID, and I don't really care. I'm not into the fancy names)
2 paly frags, 1 I know is nuclear green palys, the other not sure on the ID
Small 2 head hammer frag
Small 1 head frogspawn
Pulsing Xenia
2 Emerald crabs
3 bumblebee snails
3 margarita snails
4 narcissus snails
3 red leg hermits
Sand sifting sea star

I want to add a black capped basslet and possibly a royal gramma or purple firefish, and an orange octospawn(both on order from my LFS)

Sorry for the long read, but since I'm 3 months into this, I wanted to provide some background and what I've done up to this point.

Hope everyone enjoys the read and I welcome any and all comments.

Very nice
 
Went to the LFS today, just to have a look around since their weekly newsletter has shown a ton of changes and new tanks in the store. Had a blowout sale on buckets of IORC for 25$! bought 4 of them bad boys at that price, I just couldn't not buy them, specially seeing as my WC's are about to get a lot larger then 5 gallons. lol


Been looking for a decent rock flower anemone as opposed to an BTA or carpet. Just so happens they got in quite a few rock flowers in their last shipment. I picked up a couple specimens for future additions. I really don't have the room for them in the cube, but I'm hopeful they won't move much and attach themselves to a rock(it'll be a b!tch to remove them from a rock if they decide to attach).





This is seconds after being dumped in my tank. really love the white zebra one. The other is a real deep red tip ad purple center. Both super cool looking, but so much more so under actinics(phone pics suck under blues as we all know).
 
Well nanoers(is that even a word? if not, I'm taking credit :D), it seems like the day has come to breakdown the nano. Yesterday I got all the equipment moved over to the 80, and man did it take me all day(started at 9am and didn't finish till 8pm). I still have to clean up the wires(its a spaghetti mess right now), but everything is working and programmed.

I did find out that the mp10's work perfectly fine on 12MM glass, even at 100% they stay stuck and blow the hell out of the sand.

I have a buyer for the biocube, so it will be torn down and cleaned up then driven to Rochester.

I think my fish are lost, after taking all the equipment out of the cube I didn't replace the mp10's with anything, so its just the split return for flow and the fish are acting all weird. Today I plan on moving all my coral over to the 80 so Not super worried about water parameters in the cube.

I do have to say, I'm super glad I started again with a nano. It taught me very fast about keeping pristine water, and how to remedy any situation that may arise(when things start to go south in a nano, they go south in a hurry!).
 
Sounds like great progress. Looking foreword to watching the 80 continue to grow.

The funny thing about the lessons learned on the nano is that any future tank you set up will be easier to keep than the nano. The bigger the tank, the easier they are to keep.

But you have to always stick to the basics of pristine water quality, as even though it takes longer for bad things to happen in a bigger tank, they'll take longer to remedy I'd you're not on top of them.
 
Sounds like great progress. Looking foreword to watching the 80 continue to grow.

The funny thing about the lessons learned on the nano is that any future tank you set up will be easier to keep than the nano. The bigger the tank, the easier they are to keep.

But you have to always stick to the basics of pristine water quality, as even though it takes longer for bad things to happen in a bigger tank, they'll take longer to remedy I'd you're not on top of them.


Its not easier ont he wallet. My salt consumption blows away the nano (though expected lol)

I do mix the quick 15 minute water changes on the nano. The larger tank takes more then 15 minutes to drain the water unless I throw a pump in...
 
Well today is the day I finally tore down the nano and transferred everything over to the big tank. I'm kind of sad as everything I learned in this hobby started in the biocube.



And with that photo, this nano thread will be officially closed!

Have a follow through my 80G build if you wish.

Homer1475's 80 gallon build thread
 
Right on, homer. I too will be doing the same with my biocube in the next few weeks when i move everything over to a big tank. I learned alot with my cube.
 
Well today is the day I finally tore down the nano and transferred everything over to the big tank. I'm kind of sad as everything I learned in this hobby started in the biocube.



And with that photo, this nano thread will be officially closed!

Have a follow through my 80G build if you wish.

Homer1475's 80 gallon build thread



Following along over on your 80 thread. Got a lot out of this thread and am sure I'll get a lot from your new thread. ;-)
 
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