Hopeless :(

[asaf]

Hi guys, I wanted to share with you my problem.

i have Reef tank sps,lps,calms and more...

tank size:

70X60X60

sump:

60x50x50
2 Cells - 1 with Louvre net and the other cell is for all other Devices

1 Protein skimmer - Bubble magus curve 7
1 Bubble magus BP 100 with TLF NPX Biopellets
1 TLF Phosban 150 Reactor with TLF Hydrocarbon 2 (Low Flow)
1 JBL Heater 300W
And main Pump Laguna 7600 l/h PVC pipe Rising from the pump and split for 3 Valves - one for the Chiller (Hailea 300a), one for the TLF Phosban 150 reactor and the last not in use right now.

Supplements:

Prodibio BIO DIGEST (Once in 15 days)
TLF C-balance
TLF Acropower (amino)
Brightwell Koral-VM

Everything is added by dosing pumps Except the BIO DIGEST.

Water values:

ALk - 8.0 (Salifert)
Cal - 430 (Salifert)
mag - 1290 (Salifert)
Phosphat - 0.03 (Digital HANNA INSTRUMENT)
nitrat - 5 (Salifert)

Lighting:

ATI Sun Power
8X Giesemann T5 Bulbs
14:00 - 15:00 - Sunrise
15:00 - 22:00 - Full power
22:00 - 23:00 - Sunset

NOW FOR THE PROBLEM:

MY SPS corals are dying!
even LPS are not good anymore and start dying too.

i dont know what to do and im very very Hopeless !

if someone can help me i'll Appreciate that very much!!!!

Thanl you.

 

[TheDeepSandBed]

temp and salinity? Have you checked ammonia and nitrites? How old is the tank? Pictures?

 

[asaf]

temp and salinity? Have you checked ammonia and nitrites? How old is the tank? Pictures?

temp - 26.0
salinity - 1.025

ammonia and nitrites i didnt check.
The fish would die if there is ammonia or nitrite in water so i just dont think about that at all.

the tank is 1.5 years old. pictures i'll upload soon.

 

[CafeReef]

Are you getting enough light to the bottom of your tank? 70x60x60 is a fairly deep tank, maybe a lighting issue, when you take pics do a FTS (front tank shot)

 

[asaf]

well the SPS Corals are at the top of the tank not bottom

 

[DSMpunk]

Were you having success up until this point? As in, were you seeing good color and growth?

I usually find the culprit for my tank woes are human error. My latest bonehead move involved my salinity meter battery being low, didn't notice, and I added salt to "correct the low SG". SG spiked up to 1.030.

So make sure that your tests are accurate. I find that having a buddy verify my numbers with their testing equipment works well to find testing errors or a helpful LFS.

 

[snorvich]

Were you having success up until this point? As in, were you seeing good color and growth?

I usually find the culprit for my tank woes are human error. My latest bonehead move involved my salinity meter battery being low, didn't notice, and I added salt to "correct the low SG". SG spiked up to 1.030.

So make sure that your tests are accurate. I find that having a buddy verify my numbers with their testing equipment works well to find testing errors or a helpful LFS.

Excellent advice. Are the corals "browning" or are they "looking pale"?

 

[golferbud101691]

Were you having success up until this point? As in, were you seeing good color and growth?

I usually find the culprit for my tank woes are human error. My latest bonehead move involved my salinity meter battery being low, didn't notice, and I added salt to "correct the low SG". SG spiked up to 1.030.

So make sure that your tests are accurate. I find that having a buddy verify my numbers with their testing equipment works well to find testing errors or a helpful LFS.

mine did the same thing..i always use my refractometer now and don't trust anything mechanical(hanna checkers)

 

[jminick2]

that's a huge tank.....Ive never used T5 but is that enough light?

 

[KafudaFish]

The measurements could be in centimeters and not inches since the OP listed liters/h.

 

[asaf]

The measurements could be in centimeters and not inches since the OP listed liters/h.

Exactly.

salinity is correct im checking with Refractometer and calibrate befor every check.

Coral is not brown but not grow up, only 1 of my sps has grow about lps i dont realy know cuz is hard to see but for example my Mushroom Ricordih split 3 times already... my Xenia keep multiply...

i dont know what happend! i think i have a rproblem with flows! but dont know for sure.

 

[tidus10]

my Mushroom Ricordih split 3 times already... my Xenia keep multiply...

Sounds like dirty water IMO.. Have you done a water change or 2 recently?

Were you having steady growth on everything before or are these new additions?

Some SPS will grow faster than others, same goes for LPS.. I would watch em and enjoy them even if they are not growing, as long as they are not dying..

 

[dymaxiun]

Source or water? Where you get it, how it's made, stored, etc..... e.g. Top-off, mixing, type of salt mix, etc.

How long have you been dosing, and did you see growth before that?

Reactors, Kalk, etc.. do you have them, and what is your PH during peak photoperiod, and at night?

How old are your test kits?

Temp swings, and are you on a controller? Probes?

How old are your bulbs, and what is your

 

[snorvich]

The measurements could be in centimeters and not inches since the OP listed liters/h.

Clearly they are. Which translates to about 24 inches deep.

 

[jminick2]

Clearly they are. Which translates to about 24 inches deep.

thanks for clearing that up, again after the OP did.

I should of known.

 

[asaf]

Source or water? Where you get it, how it's made, stored, etc..... e.g. Top-off, mixing, type of salt mix, etc. - Reverse osmo water, yes im using Top-off (tunze), Salt- Red Sea pro(black).

How long have you been dosing, and did you see growth before that? - dosing for 4 months, and no, no growth.

Reactors, Kalk, etc.. do you have them, and what is your PH during peak photoperiod, and at night? - only reactor for carbon, didnt check ph during day/night but alk is Stable.

How old are your test kits? - 2 months all brend new.

Temp swings, and are you on a controller? Probes? - no temp swings, im using Elitech STC-1000 Controller on 26° C.

How old are your bulbs, and what is your - bulbs 4 months

Thank you!

 

[oscarinw]

Get your tank water AND your make-up water tested by your LFS. Complete set of tests: Ca, Alk, Mg, Phosphates, Nitrates and Salinity. Do you have any metals under the surface of the water? If so, maybe some sort of metal poisoning might be going on.
Keep us posted.

 

[dymaxiun]

I agree w/ Oscarinw - Get your water checked. Something is in there that isn't being detected by your tests.

Also, curious to how you actually know how many ml/h you are to dose, did you have readings and data prior to dosing? That can be good to pull up to reference if you have it.