theo4thorn
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After the first week or two of this so called diatom algea bloom how long does it take to go away. What are some steps to hurry it along?
how long does it take?
how long does it take?
how long does it take?
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theo4thorn
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How do you add the phosban cycle to the filter and will it affect the fish?
LarryW
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do you have fish in the tank while it's cycling? If so, you should take them out and return them. The Ammonia will burn their gills, or it could kill them. It's also not really humane to cycle with fish. I would remove them ASAP, and take them back for store credit, or you could have your LFS hold them for you until your cycle is over.....
Good Luck.
Good Luck.
six.line
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Where to start...
To directly answer your question: When cycling, without fish, the algae blooms usually take 2-3 weeks (in my experience) to go away.
Other details: Having fish prematurely interferes with length of time it takes for a tank to establish itself. Those three fish you have in your tank description-- if they're all in there-- generate a lot of waste. If the 85 pounds of rock you added is good healthy rock, then you probably won't hurt too bad.
I think the gut reaction from everyone here is that you have the words 'new tank' and 'fish' in the same post. It's far easier (and wiser) to add fish slowly. If those fish are in there and you have any amount of ammonia or nitrite, get the fish out. If you have zero ammonia and nitrite, and you just have a lot of nitrate and phosphate, then make sure your refugium is running properly and growing macroalgae. Then do weekly water changes to combat the phosphate. If the water changes drop the phosphate levels, then you know it's just your tank adjusting. If the water changes do nothing to lower your phosphate, then start to look at a phosban reactor. My initial reaction is that you don't need one at this point.
Good luck.
To directly answer your question: When cycling, without fish, the algae blooms usually take 2-3 weeks (in my experience) to go away.
Other details: Having fish prematurely interferes with length of time it takes for a tank to establish itself. Those three fish you have in your tank description-- if they're all in there-- generate a lot of waste. If the 85 pounds of rock you added is good healthy rock, then you probably won't hurt too bad.
I think the gut reaction from everyone here is that you have the words 'new tank' and 'fish' in the same post. It's far easier (and wiser) to add fish slowly. If those fish are in there and you have any amount of ammonia or nitrite, get the fish out. If you have zero ammonia and nitrite, and you just have a lot of nitrate and phosphate, then make sure your refugium is running properly and growing macroalgae. Then do weekly water changes to combat the phosphate. If the water changes drop the phosphate levels, then you know it's just your tank adjusting. If the water changes do nothing to lower your phosphate, then start to look at a phosban reactor. My initial reaction is that you don't need one at this point.
Good luck.
theo4thorn
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I have checked the ammonia and the nitrates they are all okay within the required numbers? So what am i doing wrong? my tank is in its third month
theo4thorn
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Of course my (lfs) said sure as long as the tanks numbers are okay put them in there. They haven't been acting crazy? I also have snails, an emerald crab, five hermit crabs. Yup the (lfs) said they would clean up the brown algea.
theo4thorn
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Yes I have a 120 super skimmer works great! Two rio 1400ul
powerheads i added three days ago thanks to someone on this forum.
powerheads i added three days ago thanks to someone on this forum.
theo4thorn
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I hope not (feeding) twice a day brine shrimp they eat all of what i give them within three minutes or so.
six.line
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Well, if they're eating everything you give them they're probably letting it exit on the other side as well. 
Odds are you just need to relax an wait.
What kind of snails do you have and how many?
Not a bad idea to have a few turbo snails (in tank your size, maybe 10) and then 30 or so astreas would be good.
Odds are you just need to relax an wait.
What kind of snails do you have and how many?
Not a bad idea to have a few turbo snails (in tank your size, maybe 10) and then 30 or so astreas would be good.
LarryW
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9485674#post9485674 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by six.line
Well, if they're eating everything you give them they're probably letting it exit on the other side as well.
Odds are you just need to relax an wait.
What kind of snails do you have and how many?
Not a bad idea to have a few turbo snails (in tank your size, maybe 10) and then 30 or so astreas would be good.
I agree, just get your self a good cleanup crew, and let them do the heavy lifting.
LarryW
Premium Member
take a look at Pacific East Aquaculture's cleanup crews... the site will at least give you an idea of what the recommend for your size tank. This will let you pick an choose what you might need. The crews can be expensive, so you could piece one together if that works out better for you.
http://www.drmaccorals.com/ShowProductCategory.aspx?CategoryId=31
http://www.drmaccorals.com/ShowProductCategory.aspx?CategoryId=31
theo4thorn
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whats tds?
xenon
Owner of Canada Corals
if you don't know what TDS means, then we already know you use tap water
TDS = Total Disolved Solids
Tapwater is very high in TDS but it all depends on what city you live in. RO/DI water has zero TDS and this is what you should use for a reef setup.
This may be the reason for your algee issues.
theo4thorn
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actually i am using premixed ocean water
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