how to move a tank ????

thesaent14

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can any one tell me how to move my tank with the least hasel posible i will be moving soon and i am tinking how i have to move it i have some Q? like shoult i replease the sand should i keep the water and put back when i move to the new place or just get a hall new sea water what and how i need to know anyting you guys can help with
 
Buckets, rubbermaid bins, trash cans, etc. and air bubblers. Have lots of help for moving the heavy stuff.

I would move everythig to temporary holding bins (with pumps) so you can focus on moving the equipment and getting it running at the new place. Then go back for the livestock. Have lots of extra water on hand at the new place, you will probably need it.

Refilling the tank will stir up a lot of sand. If you have any doubts about what's might be accumulated in your sandbed, I think it's safer to replace it. Your nose will tell you for sure.
 
Wow Manny moving that 180 sounds like a MAJOR headache. I will be moving next year and I am not looking forward to it.
 
Just went through this.
1. Build a sturdy crate for the 180 with 2x4's & plywood (line the inside with foamboard for padding & snug fit). Yes this will add weight but the tank will be secure and you can sit it on furniture dollies and roll it out.
2. If you can find 2 55g barrels with tops it would make your life easy. Put the barrels on the truck and with a waterhose and one of your pumps, pump the water from the 180 straght to the truck. Put your rock in the tank as the barrels fill.
3. as far as the corals it depends on how far you are moving. You can put them in rebermaid tubs 1/2 full of water and with a secure top. Be sure to seperate the hard corals from the soft corals.
4. Don't put fish in the tubs with corals or rock. They may get crushed/pinned.
5. Be prepared to setup a temporary QT system for your stock until you get the 180 setup. maybe use your fuge.

Sand is cheap, it's more trouble than it is worth to move it.
 
I just moved a 180 that I got from a friend, 4 weeks ago today. The post is long, so forgive me, but it directly relates to your move.

I started at 10 in the morning and, by 7, everything was done. It took about 2 hours for moving the tank with the help of friends. The rest of the time was spent dissasembling equipment and loading the truck, then unloading and reassembly. It would have taken less time if I'd just moved everything instead of splitting it between home and tanks at my office.

It has 200 pounds of sand and about 300 pounds of rock total.

There were 3 fish, 2 soft coral colonies (polyps and rocordia), one large leather and one baby leather. There were very few inverts, a few crabs, 2 snails, a cucumber, 5 serpent stars, and 3 large feather dusters.

The tank was lightly stocked because of die off due to hurricane wilma. Moving the livestock was the simplest part of all, so if your tank is stocked normally, it won't be a greater burden.

The tank was on an island, so I had to build a stand prior to moving it. Other than that, here is what I did:

I bought 4 tan colored 18 gallon rubbermaid style tubs from Target. I also used 3 12 gallon tubs that I already had, along with a cork bait bucket with a battery operated air pump (you can use the styrofoam or plastic bait buckets, a 5 gallon pail, or whatever).

this is the style tub:

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This is the style bait bucket you might use:

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Disconnected the chiller, the mag drive return pump, and the lights. The live rock went into the 12 gallon tubs and into 2 of the 18 gallon tubs. removed the canopy.

Rocks without coral were covered with paper towels that were then soaked with water from the tank. Rocks can stay fresh as much as 10 hours this way. Sponges will die when exposed to air, but most other life on the rock survives. In fact, a serpent star had hidden inside a cavity in a large rock and I didn't notice him until 3 hours later when I put him in a tank at my office. He is doing just fine a month later.

Rocks with corals need to be kept submerged and these were the rocks placed in the 18 gallon tubs.

Once the rock was out, the fish and invertebrates were next. The water gets cloudy from moving the rocks, so you might want to let it settle for about an hour to an hour and a half. This is a good time to take apart wiring, pack bulbs (better than i did, though none broke), plumbing, and so on. During this time, empty the sump. Mine is a 4o gallon breeder, smaller than your 70.

After catching the fish and inverts and then placing them in the bait bucket, it was time to drain water out of the main display. I just siphoned it out because I was having it replaced with a delivery of fresh, filtered new ocean saltwater delivered by exotic aquatic's Simon.

At this point, I disagree with Tiger-eyed. I saved as much sand as possible and left it covered with saltwater. I put it in the tank ASAP after I'd stored the live rock in tanks at my office. If I'd gotten the saltwater delivery that day (or mixed it myself), I would have put the rock into the tank as soon as the sand was in.

The reason I saved the sand is because it was from a well established system (5 or 6 years, i can't remember which), with lots of live rock. Four weeks later, the sand is full of worms, pods, and baby snails. When a population die off occurs, many of these species leave eggs (in the form of cysts) that hatch later. In a healthy sandbed (from a tank that is not in decline), there are tiny creatures all through the sand.

As another example, the 75 gallon in my inner office at work lost all it's corals and fish in one of the 2004 hurricanes where the power was out for a week. I'd gotten live rock and live sand from three different oceans. It was my ultimate reef, you know?

Well, everything was dead, so I cleaned the rock and went through eleven or twelve water changes once I could get fresh oceanwater from LFS again. I put fish (only) back in it once the die off had been cleaned up. A hurricane a couple of weeks later knocked the power out for another week. I bought a bunch of battery powered air pumps but everybody still died.

I restocked it (fish only) one last time and then Wilma killed everything but Mr. Tang. When i moved him to the 180 gallon tank, the pod, worm, and snail population EXPLODED. After the tank died 3 times, it has more diversity than ever.

Save your sand.

The more species you have successfully living in your captive reef, the healthier and more stable that ecosystem is.

Also, a tank DOES cycle again when you break it down and move it. This includes a nitorgen cycle (ammonia spike, nitrie spike, nitrates) and an algae cycle, your diatoms, cyano, hair algae, etc, and this is normal. Reusing the already colonized live sand will shorten the nitrogen cycle considerably because most of the bacteria will survive the move.

My 180 gallon had completed its "mini" nitrogen cycle, or "recycle," whatever you want to call it, in about 36 hours. It may have been less, but I didn't get to check the levels Monday morning before work.

I hope this helps and, remember, the advice is exactly worth you paid me for it, so it won't hurt my feelings if you don't agree with it!
 
Manny, I have lots of buckets, bait bubblers and rubbermaids from when I moved my 180g into the 250g, you can borrow.

I did basically the same as Supafly with a few exceptions. I used new live sand from the Keys and I also used Bio Spira to prevent a possible cycle. I had my fish in a 50g holding tank while the sand was settling, but they where so freaked out in there, I put them in the new tank less than 12 hours later.
 
I thought that if the sandbed is old, its probably better to start new since you might have NO2 within the sandbed and could poison the water
 
by the time you are ready to remove a sandbed, you have taken everything else out, including most of the water.

Regardless, I've never read about nitrogen dioxide in a sandbed, but I have read about nine million people chewing their nails about hydrogen sulfide. That IS produced, but nowhere near toxic levels.

In any case, when you remove a sandbed, you release the gas pockets, which float to the water's surface as bubbles and released to the atmosphere.
 
I am moving next year but using the same tanks, just physically moving to North Carolina. Can I just leave the sand in the bottom with a small amount of water during transportation?
 
I'm telling you, you do not have to change it. If you WANT to change it and have a good source for fresh sand, great. if you don't want to, however, don't.

And, of course, if you decide to throw it away, let me know... I'll be glad to ta..errr... haul it away and dispose of it for you
 
That is a little touchy, Craig. The sand can sit for two or three days with a thin covering of water and be okay... but you'd be better off to put a few inches of water over it, get a battery operated bubble pump, and an air wand. You could keep it in good shape for weeks like that.

What part of NC are you moving to? I grew in Henderson, near the VA border north of Raleigh. I lived in Durham for a few years before I moved here.
 
Well it would be sitting for however long it takes to be broken down, then the drive to NC, then putting it back together.

Moving right by Durham/Raleigh actually, probably to Cary if funds allow.
 
We went through Apex, Morrisville, and Cary and I love how Cary is set up. It's like the 'Boca' of the area.

We were looking into small houses down here and realized we can get a full sized house up there for the same price. Might as well move where we want to. The price difference between Cary and Apex is nothing compared to the price difference between south FL and there, you know what I mean?

Maybe I'm just young and naive.:cool:
 
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