How to start cycle

djcool563

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Ok i am starting my tank with bascily everything dead. dead sand and dead rock. i did get some live base rock from someone and a cup of sand from their tank but i dont know if that is enought. So how else would i start my cycle?
 
If you can get some live sand and a few pieces of live rock, you can place that in your tank and it will "seed" everything else... Will prob take like6 to 8 wks for the cycle to complete...
 
You can also toss in a cocktail shrimp from the grocery store but the LR and cup of sand should do the trick.
 
I second what asnatlas said. If I were to do what you're doing I would "PERSONALLY" have AT LEAST the same number of pounds of rock as the volume of your system and have 33% of the rock be live rock to seed the rest. For example you have a 90 gal system. Buy 60 lbs dead rock and 30 lbs live rock. Then let the system cycle (While the tank is cycling, I would highly recommend using a protein skimmer). When your tank has finished cycling and it becomes time to add fish, have a minimum of 1 week between fish additions just to be safe so your tank's bacteria catches up to the bio-load. Patience is a virtue.
 
If everything is "dead" then there is no need to "cycle" the tank. Cycling is the process of cultivating the appropriate populations of bacteria to process ammonia, (from rotting substances), and Nitrites which is the byproduct of the Ammonia being processed. If you have no organic matter in the tank then there will be no production of ammonia and thus no production of bacteria.

Were you to place a cocktail shrimp in there for example your tank will cycle and produce the required populations of the aforementioned bacteria. However, if you then left the tank with no organics, (ie: no creatures), then the populations would die off back to zero. If you were to place a small fish in there after cycling with the shrimp the populations would still die off but only to a point where they can survive on the organic waste from the fish and any uneaten food, (bacteria are living creatures that require food too and they live on ammonia).

Now, before you go rushing out and purchasing your first 100 fish ;) because you don't need to cycle the tank.... Don't!!! The sudden large influx of organics will cause a cycle that will probably be deadly to the livestock. Adding animals, (small ones), one at a time and leaving at least a week, preferably two, between additions will allow the cycle to take place in such a way that it adjusts to the current organic levels without being detrimental to the inhabitants.

But I notice you have some live base rock and some live sand. There will be some small die off, (assuming proper transportation otherwise the die off could be large), in those when you add them to the tank yet the base rock will already have some small populations of the appropriate bacteria so the time required to balance the die off to the appropriate populations would be short.

I would recommend placing the rock and sand - if it has been well transported - into the tank and leaving it for a week. Then begin adding the fish you want one at a time and waiting at least a week between fish being careful to take note of their size and, since you are adding fish, their interaction with others which might affect the order that you add them. (You don't want to put that spiffy 6" Sohal Tang in before you put your Emperor Angel in... ;))
 
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