Hydrogen Proxide and your tank?????
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tadashi123
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i dont recall the thread but i imagine it would give you improved ORP readings.
miwoodar
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I recall seeing a discussion on H2O2 dosing in an emergency situation - I think it had to do with a planktonic bacterial bloom using up the available oxygen in the system.
It was in here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/printthread.php?s=&threadid=898931&perpage=605
It was in here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/printthread.php?s=&threadid=898931&perpage=605
I would not recommend adding it on a routine basis, but some folks have used it during power failures as a quick source of O2 (when it breaks down). I'd personally prefer other methods, such as battery operated air pumps.
Monstrigity
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I have read that some people believe that it is effective against Crypt infestations. I am not a believer! I haven't seen any science to back it up. Other than a study that showed in a high enough concentration it will kill the free swimming phase. Unfortuneatly, at the concentration tested it will also kill most marine fish. I've never subscribed to the idea of killing a parasite by killing its host. 
greenbean36191
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It's also used in aquaculture to induce spawning. Again, there's the issue of overdosing/mistiming and killing the broodstock or their gametes, so it's not the safest method.
Monstrigity
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The thing is, I dont know of a way to test for hydrogen peroxide in sea water. And even if there was a way I don't know of any data showing what levels are useful and what levels are dangerous. I don't even know how hydrogen peroxide interacts with sea water. Maybe Randy could give us a little more insight into that.
Monstrigity
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"WOW. A very useful item. Though I do see overdosing being the problem. Just like how so many overfeed."
I guess my point was that as of now it's not very useful. At most it has some speculated uses that are not really backed up with hard scientific data and no tried and true road map to achieve the desired results that are claimed. If anyone knows of any data that exists please post a link.
I guess my point was that as of now it's not very useful. At most it has some speculated uses that are not really backed up with hard scientific data and no tried and true road map to achieve the desired results that are claimed. If anyone knows of any data that exists please post a link.
The wikipedia article here has a good section on the reactions of hydrogen peroxide, including the one used when trying to produce O2 for a tank:
2H2O2 ---> 2O2 + H2O
It will also oxidize organics (including organism tissues) and metals in the tank.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide
2H2O2 ---> 2O2 + H2O
It will also oxidize organics (including organism tissues) and metals in the tank.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide
saveafish
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OK Randy I thumbed through that. If I took it right adding a verrryyy small amount to shipping fish would create oxygen durring shipping. This seem like something I need to work out as a experiment. And several of them too. It seem odd and could be dangerous. But, from 10yrs ago look at what we have started dosing our tanks with compeared to then. 15 yrs ago putting superglue in you tank and just the thought of it would of killed the tank. and now it holds most of the rock work together.
I'd try to search for others who have used it to recommend amounts. Maybe PM Boomer as he may know of some links to folks who tried.
You're welcome.
Happy reefing.
Happy reefing.
Kolognekoral
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I recently experimented with H2O2 as a supplemental treatment for Cryptocarion irritans. I was feeding a medicated food due to the reef environment and wanted to try and irradicate the free-swimming stage, as the infected fish tended to become re-infected within 24 hours or so. I used 30% H2O2, which is very strong, 10x what one typically purchases for hair or disinfectant, at a rate of 1ml pro 100l (approx) into the current. The results were interesting. The water became very clear as it oxidized all of the organics it came into contact with, but the effect is very short term. I found I must dose 2x daily to control the parasites and then not 100%. It did help, however.
Of the other inhabitants the only stress factor was observed in a Heteractis magnifica, which expanded very quickly after treatment, but recovered inside of an hour. It only did this once. Could be coincidence. There are various Acroporas, Montiporas, Favids, disc anemonies, shrimps, sponges, tunicates, serpent stars, etc. A typical reef. None showed stress.
As I run a biological filter system (zeolith), I was concerned that I may damage it. Certainly, H2O2 is not particularly positive for any micro organism, but I couldn't note any change in the effect of the filter. Actually, it may have benefited as the PO4 has started dropping, again, two weeks after the treatment. It never rose, but it was stable ar 0.14. It is now under 0.09 and dropping. This is merely annecdotal, but the H2O2 may have favoured the aerobic bacteria or the macro algae.
In any case, at the dosage I used, I found it safe and effective, but not a magic bullet!
Of the other inhabitants the only stress factor was observed in a Heteractis magnifica, which expanded very quickly after treatment, but recovered inside of an hour. It only did this once. Could be coincidence. There are various Acroporas, Montiporas, Favids, disc anemonies, shrimps, sponges, tunicates, serpent stars, etc. A typical reef. None showed stress.
As I run a biological filter system (zeolith), I was concerned that I may damage it. Certainly, H2O2 is not particularly positive for any micro organism, but I couldn't note any change in the effect of the filter. Actually, it may have benefited as the PO4 has started dropping, again, two weeks after the treatment. It never rose, but it was stable ar 0.14. It is now under 0.09 and dropping. This is merely annecdotal, but the H2O2 may have favoured the aerobic bacteria or the macro algae.
In any case, at the dosage I used, I found it safe and effective, but not a magic bullet!
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