?Hypo in a display ?? Relocate coral?

I agree with you totally on the QT. Your friend might want to relocate the fish and put them in the QT at hypo. Then he can leave the corals in the display and leave it fallow for the recommended time. I brought my DT to hypo but I didn't have any corals. His coral and pods would do great without the fish and the tank would be rid of the ich after the recommended time fallow. I think it would be easier on him to do it that way. Just a recommendation.
 
I have also recommended that route to him too. I was worried with that route though that his live rock and corals may continue to host the ich? I guess as long as he leaves it fallow without fish for 6-8 weeks then that won't be a concern. He is mainly worrying about his mandarins and them eating. I guess he could get a bottle of pods for the QT for them to feed on.
 
That is true about the mandarins. That is a tuff decision. Either way, it would be an issue but I would rather not take the risk on losing the corals and hopefully he can get the mandarins to eat in QT.
 
I guess I could babysit his mandarin's while he is keeping his tank in hypo and qt'ing his fish. I will pass your suggestion along to him. I got him started in this hobby after he saw my tank and I feel kinda like I am his Obi Wan. :lmao:
 
Yup Im pretty sure the critters in the sand are dieing off, forsure Ive found a few mini brittle stars dead in my pumps, but nothing to cause any type of water quality issues. I left a pistol shrimp in there cause I couldnt find him, but I still hear him clicking away in there this morning..
 
Same here on the pistol shrimp. I could not get him out. Mine was a hitchhiker and has been a terror on my small fish. I have suspected him of killing them. He was not as lucky as yours though. He did not make it but I do have a small hermit crab that's still alive. Interesting how some can take it and others can't.
 
Let me clarify. I did remove all the inverts I could find or get out. I missed on hermit and he is the one that's alive. I will say I am not losing sleep over the pistol shrimp though. :smokin:
 
My pistol shrimp isn't that bad. He doesn't mess with any fish that don't try to mess with him like my bi-color blue eyed pseudochromis. That fish is a terror all by himself. He takes the liberty of trying to attack me everytime my hand goes in the tank. He is a little turd. If I could only catch him he'd be gone, he's one fish I wouldn't feel bad at all about flushing.:furious: He constantly harasses my pistol shrimp, and he is constantly clicking away. I hope one day his claw catches the dotty backs head and does the dirty work for me:lmao:
 
I have a 265 gallon FOWLR. I have had ick several times in my 10 years keeping saltwater fish I think I have tried everything including the snake oils out there but I have finally been able to get rid of ick naturally this may work for some but not all I have several tangs 4 yellow, achillis, blue morph, sailfin, kole. ect ect I run a 36 watt uv sterilizer 24 x 7 and a vortex xl diatom filter 24 xs 7 I replace de media every 4 days and once a week I take out the filter replace with another one then soak it in bleach dry it and use it again. That plus keeping water quality damm near perfect as it can be and a good diet I let the fish fight it off on their own this took several months but I have had no loss and rarely see a spot on any of the tangs.
 
Just a update on my hypo treatment

While I know Im nowhere near the end (I imagine the harder part will be raising the salinity back up) I just cant believe how easy this has been, all these years I've tried everything but hypo when it was right here the whole time and basically cost nothing more than a evening of work.. Even if the fish dont make it atleast I know I tried my best, but I suspect by all the activity and eating there gonna b just fine..

The 3 fish that were the worst still have spots but I can tell they are much better than they where a week ago. The copper band developed some type of a growth on his mouth last week n by time I caught it he already had quit eating, teated the tank with maracyn plus for the last week and the growth has totally disappeared and hes eating like a pig the last few days.

Thats really about it, I sure will be happy when i dont c the ich anymore but it is taking its time falling off the fish
 
Johnnyblaze313, glad to hear your tank is doing well. I can't say the same for mine. As far as the hypo, it's doing fine. As far as my fish, not good. I have lost three of them. One to what I believe was some kind of fluke and the others to some kind of fungus. I put them in the freezer so i can examine them to see if i can tell what killed them. I thought it was tail and fin rot because I noticed a notch out of a fin on one then the next day it was dead. The other one was a percula clown. She had a fungus next to her right gill one day so i thought maybe it was brook so i treated her with a formalin bath. All the white fungus stuff came off but it looked like it removed part of her gill. She ended up dying with in 24 hrs. Interesting enough, my ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, and ph were all great. The only thing different is the salinity. I am thinking I introduced the problems with that last fish I put in and the ich that all my fish got was secondary to the main disease. It makes me sick and it was a sad and costly mistake that I will never do again. I am referring to not putting new fish in qt before adding them to the display.
 
Sorry to here about the loss of fish bucky... Ya I definitely learned the same lesson to always quarantine..

Im curious and I cant really find any good pictures of what a fluke looks like or how to diagnose them, anyone got a link to some info on flukes? Preferably with a pic
 
I can't find any good pics but the reason I made the mistake was the fish put in the display had a little white stuff on it's eyes and white spots on it's fins. The spots were more like very very small pieces of cotton. It was very noticeable and since the fish looked healthy and the owner of the LFS said it was just because the fish was being picked on, I figured he was ok just a little stressed. He was eating well and was not breathing heavy so I got him and you know the rest of the story. The owner didn't even know what it was. After reading about flukes, my fish had almost all the symptoms plus the cotton looking stuff is the actual parasites. I know other parasites have similar symptoms but I am pretty sure it was some type of flukes. Here is one site I found that describes the symptoms : http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/disease/flukes.php

I will be starting to treat the tank with Prazipro as soon as it arrives. The rest of my fish look good and healthy but I am not going to wait any longer.
 
Thanks for the reads bucky, Ive been looking for a pic of flukes with no success all morning.. Im kinda starting to worry what if this isnt ick Im dealing with. I took a video of my fish but its really hard to c the fins, ill upload it after I get to work this evening to c if anyone can spot them
 
Here is a good pic of a fish that has flukes on its eyes. This is exactly what mine looked like before all the other symptoms happened. The problem was I was under the impression that a bad case of Ich would also cloud the eyes, which I believe it does, but it was a mis-diagnosis on my part.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd34/dyakovly/P6060061.jpg

Also, this a great thread that deals with this problem. I am still in reading it.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1260067&highlight=trematodes
 
johnnyblaze313 said:
Thanks for the reads bucky, Ive been looking for a pic of flukes with no success all morning.. Im kinda starting to worry what if this isnt ick Im dealing with. I took a video of my fish but its really hard to c the fins, ill upload it after I get to work this evening to c if anyone can spot them
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I feel the same way but my fish did come down with a bad case of Ich but I feel it was secondary to the flukes. I am glad I am doing hypo because of Ich breakout and I am also going to be treating for the flukes as soon as the PraziPro shows up. This way, when I am done with Hypo, I am hoping the flukes and Ich will be gone. Also, after the PraziPro treatment, I will be treating it with Seachem's ParaGuard. ParaGuard is suppose to be good at treating Fungal and Bacteria issues.
 
Alright after reading those links n seeing that pic Im pretty sure its ick n not flukes. This morning the fish look fantastic, I wud say 50-60% of the spots fell off over the last few days so the hypo is really starting to work, and the copperbands mouth has completely healed. Should b in the home stretch here in the next few days hopefully .. Thanks again bucky n everyone else for the help. I'll keep it posted with updates
 
Glad to hear it. This is also a first for me. I just wish I never lost any fish in the process but I am confident, it was not because of the Hypo. I am very hopefull this will take care of the ich issue. I hope that Prazipro will take care of the fluke problem then I will be set. :)
 
Well turns out I did have flukes to! Noticed a spot on my emperors eye. Ran out n got some prazi pro last week, its done a fine job at killing the flukes. So thats 3 treatments these fish have had to go through but so far everyone is hanging in there
 
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