I have failed

Newms118

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All I planned on doing this summer was take out my three fish from my DT, treat them for persistent Ick thats been kept at bay with a UV pump, and while the fish were in a QT, buy another QT, order fish and finally get my DT finished. Its been nothing but a waste of time.

I started all this in mid May after 3 weeks getting all the fish out the tank with a trap. I tried multiple rounds of NLS Ick Shield at 40 mg per gallon, and some rounds at 60 mg / gallon. When it looked like my fish were cured, the clownfish kept getting sick. Couldn't tell if it was Ick or brook or velvet or flukes or whatever else these things catch. Tried fresh water dips, Paraguard dips, formalin dips, treated with Prazipro, did the TTM over several weeks with a total of 7 transfers. Each transfer used cleaned equipment that had been previously bleached and air dried for more than a day. Used new air stones and tubing every time. Finally looked like the clown was ok. After 4 months, constant water changes, managing two tanks with the other QT going through the same treatments including TTM, all the money on supplies, drugs, everything else, I put the fish back in the DT. And the clown still gets Ick. DT was fallow for 4 months, so it didn't come from that. the new fish never showed signs and received treatment anyway. Even my royal gramma is showing spots and flashing.

I don't see how you guys keep going with this. I feel nothing but defeated, and have lost all interest in this now. I've never not had sick fish. My first fish I bought, I payed the fish store, Quantum Reefs in Virginia, to quarantine and treat the fish I selected only to pick them, put them in my tank, and infect it immediately. I frankly wish all the fish would have died at this point so I could just start over. Either that or just sell everything I have and give up.
 
Don't give up. Since you have gone thru so many stages of curing ich I am sure you have researched ich cycle. I would say at this moment just wait and watch and don't do anything except regular maintenance. Sometimes it works just to leave the things to take care of themselves. Yes I know it's frustrating but patience is tested and in your case for sure it is being tested. Since you have been quite patience since May I would think you are at the end of the tunnel where the hope is waiting for you...hang in there..


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I feel really bad for you. I have used nothing but hypo with 100% success.

How difficult would it be to get all your fish back in QT?
 
1. Are you absolutely sure it is ich (Cryptocaryon irritans)?

2. Did the fish show any symptoms (like scratching) while in treatment/TTM?

3. How long did it take for the symptoms to show after the fish were returned to the DT?
 
I don't see copper used anywhere. Did you? NLS powder and TTM are risky. People sear by it, but Ive seen first hand that TTM does not always work. Your best bet is to use a round of copper.
 
Copper fails as often as all the other methods since its effective and safe range is quite narrow.

There is also so far no clarity what actually failed, fish treatment or fallow of DT
 
I don't see copper used anywhere. Did you? NLS powder and TTM are risky. People sear by it, but Ive seen first hand that TTM does not always work. Your best bet is to use a round of copper.

Not sure what you mean by TTM being risky. If executed correctly, TTM is about as close to a 100% guarantee as you will get in this hobby. From what I have observed in this forum, failures with TTM are caused by either incomplete sterilization/cross-contamination or exceeding the 72-hour period between transfers (i.e. user error).
 
If 72h is really a critical limit, I would rather do transfers every other day - It's what I usually do anyway when I'm doing TTM.
 
If 72h is really a critical limit, I would rather do transfers every other day - It's what I usually do anyway when I'm doing TTM.

As long as the total treatment time is 12 days (6 transfers every two days vs. 4 transfers every three days), that works too.
 
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