ICH any non QT reef safe treatment available?

[thommyboy12183]

Hi all,

I appologize i have read through a few posts on setting up QT tanks/treating for disease. But i still have a few questions.

I have a 55g tank with 3 anemones, 3 shrimp, snails and hermits, along with 2 occ clown, a fairy wrasse, a yellow tang and my newest addition a hippo tang.

The tang has been in my main tank for about a week and today i saw a few white dots on him. I at first tried to tell myself its not ich but i dont see that being the case(3 dots in total). I currently do not see any dots on anything else.

I know i know QT new fish, i just dont have the space for a second tank to be used as a QT tank that is out of the way not an eye sore when not in use(wife wont allow for it).

That being said unless anyone has a glimmer of hope that white dots r not ich(they dont look raised of that means anything). I am not sure how to proceed. I hve read about non copper treatments "kick ich" and stuff like that to mixed reviews, other saying only copper or lowering my salinity work. But the copper isnt an option due to all my inverts and the lowering of salinity i have no idea how to go about it? Remove 10% water and slowely add water till it equalizes to 1.008? Then top off woth premade 1.008. Then how long until u increase? Weekly 10% wTer changes adding in 1.025 until its back to that?

If i do have to set up a QT i have an old 10G tank in my daighters room that used to be freshwater nothing in it but water and decrative rock. Can that be converting to QT by taking my 10% water change water and adding it to it? If so since it is a QT tank can i leave the decrative gravel instead of sand? After treatment and i return the tang to main tank can the filter be reused for a freshwater tank with fish only? This tank being used as a QT might not be possible it is truely only a last resort.

 

[thommyboy12183]

Not sure if this makes a difference or not. The white spots i see as i said above do not look raised or anything like that it almost looks more like small white bleaching. I have tried to take pictures but the white spots do not come out in the picture. I will try to post one alittle later.

In first picture 3286 you can see a white dot just above his eye.

In the second to last 3289 you can see 2 dots above other eye.

and in the last picture 3290 you can see 2 dots at the back of him just before yellow fin.

I have watched him regularly and he is swimming normally does not appear to be rubbing against any rock. He does however not eat or eat when i am watching. I feed frozen ocean nutrient formula one herbivore/carnivore and leave in green seaweed on clips.

 

[scooter31707]

Hard to tell but it doesn't look like Ich to me. Looks more like velvet, brook, or uronema. For a little suggestion, neither one of those tangs belong in that size tank. You will continue to have sick fish from them being stressed out due to feeling cramped.

 

[MrNurse]

Are you able to get a closer look at his fins?

 

[Dusky]

Looks like my clown with velvet. I'm not an expert on this as I just have my first tank but it looks a lot like it

 

[thommyboy12183]

I have been treating with kordan ich attack. He is very active and swims alot just looks alittle pale

 

[ca1ore]

None that actually work.

 

[thommyboy12183]

Whether it works or not. He seems to be doing fine so that is all i care about. I knew when i bought it, it was prob not gonna do anything but i figured why not try for the heck of it.

 

[scooter31707]

That doesn't work. You are seeing the ich fall off the fish to the sandbed and reproducing. They will be back in bigger numbers. If it is ich, I suggested taking all fish out treating with TTM and letting your tank go fallow for 90 days.

 

[thommyboy12183]

I have removed the Hippo to HT i am leaning towards velvet over Ich as the Hippo appears very pale in the morning and pretty consistently pale throughout the day. There are no raised white particles on the body but there are white discoloration about the size of a pinhead that could be white or yellow.

I started Konrad Copper Aid treatment, and keeping seadweed with garlic readily available to eat.

He does not seem to be eating very little if at all. and does not have much swimming. Hides beneath the piece of PVC i put in the tank for shade/housing.

I am still not 100% sure on the copper treatment if it is dose once every 30 days or dose daily for 30 days. I know the water should be tested for copper levels to keep levels at 0.6 mg/L however i am awaiting the copper test to come in the mail ordered online, so i do not want to dose more than the one does(to not overdose).