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[texgv]

I saw these at my LFS and I think it's a hoeksemai and a tenuis, but he doesn't think so, what do you think?

 

[Whisperer]

The first one may be a formosa and the second one may be a vermiculata.

 

[chris88]

I have the first one and i was told it is a blue tipped slimmer aka a formosa stag. When it grows the tips are bright baby blue and the body is a dull purplish.