I'm so bummed

Recty

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That I missed this shot...

miniatus009.jpg


You can see that's its definitely a picture of one of my fish, but it was SOOOO dark, this was all I could do to make it legible without totally destroying the quality.

He likes to hide in dark corners of the tank so it makes it a really hard fish to get a good picture of without using the flash. I wish I had gotten this shot, his teeth look sweet.

Anyway, I'm going to keep trying and eventually get him out in the open doing this, or I'll buy a 5D MK II I can turn the ISO up to 6400 on reliably ;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14729141#post14729141 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by H@rry
Try this one.
It's definitely brighter, but notice how grainy and noisy it got? I can do that too ;) I just am trying to make it not noisy.

Basically, my setup cant get non flash pictures fish in that type of lighting, no way around it.

Yeah, at least the composition was there, thanks for being positive :)
 
This isn't great, starting with just a small jpg but there's certainly more that you can do to that image.

miniatus009.jpg
 
Not directly photography related, but this has always been my biggest gripe about miniatus. I've seen too often when they huddle in a cave, and then there's a little streak of red as they shoot out to eat their food, and then dive back into hiding.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14730560#post14730560 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
This isn't great, starting with just a small jpg but there's certainly more that you can do to that image.
Especially if you have the RAW file!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14730560#post14730560 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
This isn't great, starting with just a small jpg but there's certainly more that you can do to that image.
Nice, that one looks way better.

Mind explaining to me the process you used to fix that? I could get no where near those results, when mine got that bright it just looked horribly noisy.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14730616#post14730616 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Wolverine
Not directly photography related, but this has always been my biggest gripe about miniatus. I've seen too often when they huddle in a cave, and then there's a little streak of red as they shoot out to eat their food, and then dive back into hiding.
So far, the miniatus has been moving about the tank a lot and being a cool fish. It's kind of doing things backwards, I've heard they basically hide for a couple weeks to months, then they slowly start coming out more.

This guy is out all the time and only rarely hides, like when I walk by the tank or when I first feed he hides.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14730730#post14730730 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Recty
This guy is out all the time and only rarely hides, like when I walk by the tank or when I first feed he hides.

That's good. I've seen some that have stayed in hiding for years.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14730725#post14730725 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Recty
Nice, that one looks way better.

Mind explaining to me the process you used to fix that? I could get no where near those results, when mine got that bright it just looked horribly noisy.

I'll have another go at it tomorrow and document it. I tried a few things and I don't remember exactly which try that was.

Basically, I cleaned up the noise on your shot and then duplicated the layer. Then I set the blend mode on the duplicated layer to "screen." Then I flattened it and did some adjustments with the shadow/highlight tool and applied some sharpening.
 
Yeah, I just dont know Photoshop well enough, I guess.

I'd appreciate a process list of what you did if you've got time. If you're busy, dont worry about it, I'll figure it out someday!

My biggest fight right now is removing noise from pictures like that, you seem to have done a superb job and mine was craptastic at best.
 
H@rry, good effort. That's probably about what I would produce.

Doug, I also would appreciate it if you have time to 'splain your tweaks to that image. Enquiring minds want to know!

It is lighter with good tonality still, dramatic noise reduction and a silky softness.

Thanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14734301#post14734301 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
No worries. I'll try to get to it tomorrow.

Cheers

It was a great edit, but notice what happened with the teeth compared to the original. The rest of the image maintained pretty good sharpness with little noise, but the teeth got blurry and for me that was a real focal point of the original.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14747655#post14747655 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TWallace
It was a great edit, but notice what happened with the teeth compared to the original. The rest of the image maintained pretty good sharpness with little noise, but the teeth got blurry and for me that was a real focal point of the original.

Correct but that's quite fixable. It just needs to be masked during noise reduction. If I'd spent more than 5 minutes on it and had a source file bigger than 800 pixels I could make them sharp enough to put your eye out. ;)
 
Doug - It is safe to say you are a beast! I tried to imitate your work and this is as far as I got.... :hmm5: ... :lol:
 
Okay - I spent a few more minutes with this today and here's what I came up with. I'm using Photoshop CS4 and Noiseware Professional but these techniques would work in CS3 as well.

Open the image.

Before doing any adjustment work, I ran it through Noiseware using default settings.

The next step involves creating a density mask that we'll use to apply our changes. Open the "Channels" tab, hold the CMD key (cntrl on PC) and click on the word RGB. You should see a selection appear on the bright parts of the image.

http://images.hopdog.com/step1.png

Next, we need to invert that selection. (Select/Inverse)

Now go back to the layers tab. Click Layer/Duplicate Layer and click OK.

http://images.hopdog.com/step2.png

This is where the magic starts to happen. With the "background copy" layer selected, click the mask icon below the layers palette:

http://images.hopdog.com/step3.png

Change the layer blend mode to Screen.
http://images.hopdog.com/step4.png

It's brigher, but not bright enough. Effectively, we've just brightened just the dark areas 1 full stop. With the background copy layer selected, hit CMD J (cntrl on PC) or do Layer/New/Layer via copy.

That looks pretty good now so let's focus on sharpening those teeth.

Go back to the Channels tab and make do the same selection that we started with.

( Open the "Channels" tab, hold the CMD key (cntrl on PC) and click on the word RGB. You should see a selection appear on the bright parts of the image.)

Go back to the Layers palette, click the original background layer. Go to Filter/Convert for Smart Filters.

Next click on Filters/Sharpen/Smart Sharpen.

http://images.hopdog.com/step5.png

I'm using some pretty aggressive values but that's okay because we're going to mask them to just the teeth. Once you've entered the values, click okay.

Photoshop used our selection and created a mask for the sharpening. It's a start but we're not done.

http://images.hopdog.com/step6.png

Hold down the Option key (alt on PC) and click on the mask. You should see the image turn to grayscale. What you're actually looking at is the mask that we created. We need to refine it.

Click filter/Stylize/Find Edges.

http://images.hopdog.com/step7.png

Click CMD i (cntrl on PC) to invert the mask.

Select Filter/Other/Maximum and set it to 1 pixel.

http://images.hopdog.com/step8.png

Almost done. Now we need to smooth out the mask.

Select Filter/Blur/Gaussian Blur and select 1 pixel.

Hold down the Option key (alt on PC) and click on the mask. You should see the image turn back to full color. If I were going to save this for the web I'd flatten the image (Layer/Flatten image) and then do a "Save for web"

Cheers



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