im starting my first tank!!!

mikey3165

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i need to know if anybody has information or a site that has step by step instructions to setting up a reef. i have been with freshwater since i was 8 years old and i am 16 now. so i want to know like the set up of the filtration and other helpful hints on how set up rock and coral. so if anybody has any info, please tell me!!! i will appreciate it so much!!! :)
 
umm right here, you cant find a better place to have anyone answer your questions i am only 21 and i foudn out everyhting i needed to know from posting on here and know i have a awsome reef, ask anythign and you will get the right way to do it, not the fishstore way of doing it
 
ok thanks a lot yea i was just wondering cuz i really want to get into it but i need to learn hoe to set up all of the filters, pumps and all of the other stuff so do u think anyone could help me on that??:confused:
 
well wat you need to first do , is figure out wat you want, you are propablly safe to say you only want fish right now, since it is your first tank, thats wat i did i started with a fish only tank and moved in corals and stuff. Plus i hope you have a job cause it gets expensive, reef tank, fish only you can set up for a minimal cost., also while you are tlaking to peopel on here get some books out. If you set it up right you wont need anytype of filter, except a protien skimmer and live rock. no fluval or anythign like that cause they can actually be bad for the tank.
 
alright because i actually have two jobs right now and im not worryin bout that but i am plannin on gettin a 55 gallon tank and set it up but i found a full skimmer kit for 65 gal. and under for $85 and how many pounds of rock should i buy? and also what kind of lighting??
 
ok thanks i searched the book on google and it looks like it has a lot of information since it is 430 pages long?? but yea i will probably try and buy that. thank you
 
I copy pasted this from a post I responded to where someone else asked basicaly the same question you did. I answered a few of his questions so I hope you can unscramble my response and gain some info from it. Cheers! Oh and also, do yourself a favor and save a huge headache and dont buy anything for atleast another month or two. Spend all the time you can doing research and have a very solid plan before starting. As everyone will say, "Anything worth doing in this hobby is worth doing slowly."




Firstly welcome to reef central and congrats on your new tank. The key to being sucessful in this hobby is to GO VERY SLOWLY. Research everything before you do it or buy it. Dont be scared to ask any questions.

I am very new to saltwater as well and have made many mistakes in starting up my tank. This has in the end cost me about $1,500 in wasted money. Heres a few things I highly suggest you look into and make decisions on before purchasing anything for your tank.

Mechanics

Firstly, what size of tank do you want to build?

Are you wanting to buy a glass or acrylic tank? Both has pros and cons.

Im assuming you are going to have a hood on the tank. How much space is in the hood for other equipment?

Do you intend on building a sump/refugium for your tank?

What skimmer do you want to purchase? There are some on the market that are great and some that are crap. Make sure to know before you buy. Also, dont skimp on this.

What type of lighting do you want to go with? Depending on the tank I would think that 4-6 VHO's would light it very nicely. However if you want to keep clams or very high light needy corals you may want to add a single or double Metal Halide system.

As far as powerheads go, how much flow do you want in your tank. People will tell you anywhere from 4x-60x the total water volume of your tank per hour. Put some thought into this, and realize that EVERYONE will tell you different. Look at the types of corals you want to keep and see what they require. Some will do best in slow currents, and some require very fast currents to thrive. IMHO I think that anywhere from 4x-10x is great.

As far as a heater goes, its not an absolute requirement because the pumps and lighting (if you get MH) will help heat your tank. I suggest getting 2 smaller ones as opposed to one larger one just incase one goes bad because when they go bad they have a tendancy to over heat so a huge heater overheating will cook your tank where as a smaller one will have a lesser effect.

As far as stuff like a hydrometer and thermomiter and stuff like that. Yes you will need to get this stuff, but dont forget about other stuff like test kits and any additives you need. As far as additives and test equipment go ask before buying. Some brands of test kits are more accurate than others, and some additives arent really necessary.

Livestock

As far as sand goes, most people will say to buy araganite sand. It seems to be widely used and the best for the application. Dont go buy "regular sand" from like home depot or something because it tends to be very dirty and contains unwanted metals and other materials. Some people will say that "quartz sand" aka "Silica sand" is good to use for tanks. However it has been proven that silica sand releases an unnaturaly high amount of soluable silica into the water thus promoting the growth of diatomes(which is a brown slime) so I would suggest against it. Something else to keep in mind is that the finer the sand, the less crap tends to get trapped in it. Using something like coral rubble is fine, but you will have to make sure you keep your tank very clean because junk tends to build up in a coral rubble substrate.. You can look more into "deep sand beds" while you surf the forums. Also, if you like animals that burrow in the sand they like fine sand from what I understand.

Yes you can get a few nice chunks of live rock, then use base rock to fill your tank. I did this and am very happy with the results. The base rock will become live after a few months or so. Just be sure that the base rock is very very clean before you put it in your tank. I used a pressure washer on mine and it hasnt been an issue.

Be sure to add fish slowly. You need to let your tank slowly get used to the added biomass that the fish will create.

Im assuming you want to keep corals. What kind? There are several different types such as SPS(small polup stony) LPS(Large polup stony) Softies, and Zoos. Each type generaly comes from diferent parts of the reef and has diferent lighting and flow requirements. It will make your life alot easier to choose one type to start with, then expand as you learn more.

Other thoughts

What process do you intend to use to cycle your system? There are many meathods out there and Im sure all of them work just the same however there are a few that are a little more fish friendly than others.

Before buying ANYTHING from your LFS be sure to shop around online. I have found that most if not all local fish stores prices are roughly double that of most online stores. Especialy when it comes to hardware.

I dont suggest buying a premade hood light. If you are crafty you can make a very nice wooden hood for your tank that will perfectly suit your needs, then purchase all of the items you need for the lighting system you want and build it yourself for the same price as buying one of the premade lighting systems and you will be alot happier with the results (well I was anyway) and it will give your tank a much more finished look to it.

Remember, go slow and ask lots of questions. People will be mroe than happy to provide you there $0.02

I hope this helps fuel some thoughts. Best of luck with your tank, Im sure youll love it as much as I love mine =D
 
wat ype of skimmer is it, and since you arnt goin to have a sump, and for fish only really dont need one in my opinoin, u would go with a deep sand bed of very fine sand, and about 75-90 pounds of live rock and you should have no probalem with nitrates which for a fish only are really the only thing you want to watch out for, and maybe phosphate. And lighting if you are plainng on going with corals in the future which you can do with the setup i just gave you, IMO go with T5's i have a teklight t5 4 bulb fixture on my55g and can keep basiaclly anything.
 
but if i have that much live rock can i only get reef fish or can i get other types??? and i am really new to this sump/refugium stuff and how does that exactly work. if i do decide to get coral will i need to get a sump/refugium???
 
you dont need a sump, fuge for coral reefs, i dont have one and have sps, lps, clams. jsut depends on how much you take care of your tank, ill be honest the biggest thing in saltwater hobby, is Water changes!
 
Hello everyone,

I hope you don't mind if I jump into your discussion. I'm kind of in the same "boat" as I am brand new and trying to figure all the maintence issues out as well. I have a 75 gal with sump and skimmer. I have live sand (CaribSea Aragonite) and my SG is at 1.023 (although I have read this should be higher??).

Thanks SquidHC for your suggestions. I'm glad to see it written about base rock and a few chunks of live rock. I've seen someone locally who has some base rock for $1 per pound. I think I will go that route.

I have a question about pH. My sand and salt both seem to suggest they will buffer my pH arount 8.2. It was at 8.2, but after adding the sand it increased to 8.5. Is it critical that I get the pH stabalized before adding live rock? :confused:

thanks
 
Re: im starting my first tank!!!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9712672#post9712672 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mikey3165
i need to know if anybody has information or a site that has step by step instructions to setting up a reef. i have been with freshwater since i was 8 years old and i am 16 now. so i want to know like the set up of the filtration and other helpful hints on how set up rock and coral. so if anybody has any info, please tell me!!! i will appreciate it so much!!! :)

this is a thread by Travis L. Stevens, a must seen material for newbie, you will love it

Want to Start a Marine Aquarium?: A Step by Step Guide
 
Welcome to the life of saltwater!!!! Have fun and GO SLOWLY!!!!! TAKE YOUR TIME!!!!!!! :) There is so much information out there.......be careful what you trust. Reef Central is the greatest place for help.....so when in doubt.....or even when your not.....still post questions and you will receive some extremely helpful and accurate information!
 
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