Interesting Solaris Info

If you have a better way, I'm all ears. I can also tell you how to put some of those ideas in action for yourself, rather than griping on a reef board.

Flat out criticism of an entire profession is ignorant. The most blatant injustices that you regularly hear about are made when lawyers and judges are taken out of the picture and left to juries -the demographic to which you refer. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.

I will tell you this though, it is a politician that makes a bad law, and a lawyer that fixes it. That's the differance.
 
I know you are capable - of reading, but please allow me to repeat myself - my comments were intended for the sake of humor.
Engineers get laughed at all of the time - but we don't take it personal. You might want to try that approach.

I am afraid you read too lightly my post about the ENTIRE system of government. It was not aimed at trial lawyers. Not in specific.

And, realistically - as most of our politicians ARE lawyers - is not the last statement you made a bit ironic?

Look, I really do not want to feel you are angry with me here - so let me apologize for frustrating you, and I wish for you a "thicker skin". That is, heck - let some of the things you read bounce off, do not take them personal.
This reef forum is not intended to be the adversarial one that the court is by it's very nature.
T
 
Tee- I don't know you and you don't know me. So I don't intend to hold any grudges against you, nor do I intend to poke fun at what you do, or blame you for the bridge collapse in the Twin Cities last year. I only do that with people I know will take it as a joke. So now we've each made suggestions to the other and hoepfully are well-taken.

Yes, the last statement is ironic. Irony often points out truth as much as it does humor. When a lawyer makes a leap from practicing law to being a politician, the goals change significantly. A politician must support his view, even if its a bad one. A lawyer won't take a side. This is why you will always find a lawyer willing to tackle a bad law.

By the way, I am a public defender as well as a solo attorney. I represent the demographic every day. If you think lawyers are bad, you should meet the people who get me free of charge. Now THAT's funny.
 
You know - we are not as far apart as you may think, in our view points. And - for the record, I am an Aggie and taking a joke is a pre-requisite if one attends Texas A&M <G>.
I respect your belief "that lawyers won't take a side". And I also believe that is a testament to your personal willingness to be a public defender. God bless you for the commitment to uphold the right we should all have to equal representation.
And - I do not think all lawyers are bad - perhaps you did not notice that I employ one in my firm?
But, as my experience in dealing directly with other lobbyists, and congressmen and their council has tought me the same lesson that I hold to dearly when dealing "in the District":
People -just like snakes, come in varieties. Some snakes kill vermin and pests, thus we consider them good. Others, are venomous and have a distinct proclivity to bite humans and other snakes too.
I - like you I am sure - prefer to be a good person (though some may see me as a snake). I cannot say that for all of my kind. Neither should you of yours. Because some of them would rather bite me - or you - than kill vermin.
Good night - and give the bad guys, (or vermin <G>) hell this week-
T
 
And, as a Solaris owner, I can see that you have an added level of frustration. My sympathies. I hope yours is one of the units that has been that has been good.
T
 
Closer Than They Seem

Closer Than They Seem

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14454712#post14454712 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cclough_KeyDev
pfj:

There's nothing more to say than what was said before.

Orbital has not accused AquaIllumination of patent infringement and we understand that they are not trying to use the patent to put people out of business.

We won't be commenting on the "merits of patent #7,473,008" on ReefCentral.

The AquaIllumination product, unlike the PFO Solaris, has proven to require very little warranty support in the two years of user operation.

The AquaIllumination product line is continually being developed, with new products to be released in the months to come.

Bottom line: The AquaIllumination product, its distributor, and dealers continue to sell and support the product.

To discuss this further, please email ReefGeek or AquaIllumination Support.
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Per your suggestion, I started a thread on the ReefGeek forum, entitled "Future of Aquaillumination” and posed some questions to Greg Morgan. Like you, Greg Morgan of Reef Geek sidestepped the questions and ominously stated that “not all is what it seems.”

My questions were:

(1) How does Aquaillumination avoid infringing on Orbitec’s patent?
(2) Do Aquaillumination, C2 Development, or their affiliates have permission or license from Orbitec or its affiliates to produce aquarium LED lighting fixtures?
(3) Where can I find C2 Development’s SEC filings where patents, licenses, and royalties must be disclosed?

Greg Morgan’s responses were:

(1) Sorry, cannot comment
(2) Sorry, cannot comment
(3) C2 Development is not a publicly traded company.

I also asked if Aquaillumination, C2 Development or their affiliates pay royalties or license fees to Orbitec or its affiliates. When I looked for an answer this morning, the thread had been deleted without explanation.

Nevertheless, I believe the responses and the deletion of the thread tell us that Orbitec and Aquaillumination are closer than they seem.
 
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pjf
- I do not have any agenda here but I can understand your desire know truly if there is a "percieved threat" or an actual one as respects Aqua Illuminations.

But I get the sense that they do not want to talk about anything until the case of Orbitec - v -PFO has finished.
No one can predict with a certainty what the total outcome will be from such a proceeding. And because of that, A.I. is really just exercising old fashioned prudence.
They do not want to attract attention to themselves until they know for a certainty that A.I. is not going to participate in a "round 2" -vs- Orbitec. They are in a position to learn much from the entire process of Orbitec -v- PFO, and most assuredly will have someone in that courtroom taking notes.
Make sense?
Hang in there.....While we are frustrated as hobbyists, try to imagine how the folks with A.I. are feeling right now.
T
 
Funny to revive this thread. However, where is Orbitec's LED fixtures that they promised? What of Orbitec's promise to help PFO LED owners? What about the little known fact (apparently) that Orbitec is a governmentaly subsidized business (aka: NASA ect.), and yet holds such a patent - on your dime? Now looking into it, the writing was on the wall- kill NASA funding - kill Orbitec, you do the math from there. BTW, I own 2 differnt PFO LED lighting systems, both have had problems, both easily solved via ebay. Orbitec claimed that PFO was at fault (joint venture or not)- I disagree- the idea of a product should not allow for any patent- an actual product should- (aka PFO).

I emailed Orbitec 3 times over the past 2 weeks- with no responce.

Shame on you Orbitec- next time im in your neck of the woods, perhaps I will tell you in person- perhaps this coming fishing season.
 
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