Interesting tank ideas

MMacro

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Im looking for ideas as to what I should do with a 40 gallon tank that I have lying around. Open to any ideas. I have come up with a few things so far:
Pygmy octopus
Coldwater tank
Deepwater tank
NPS tank
Seahorses
Invert tank
Predator fish tank; Scorpionfish, anglers, lionfish, etc
Breeding clowns; I know what goes into this as I have raised them before
Other cephalopods
 
I am also considering setting up the tank for my blue spot jawfish as they require lower temperatures. If I go this route I will most likely also keep seahorses.
 
Deepwater, pygmy octopus, or NPS tank. I have seen some on here lately that make we want to convert. I like dedicated tanks. I feel too many of us want it all, but that's not always possible.
 
Deepwater, pygmy octopus, or NPS tank. I have seen some on here lately that make we want to convert. I like dedicated tanks. I feel too many of us want it all, but that's not always possible.

I am really tempted by the octopus idea and acknowledge the amount of care that they require, however this will restrict me from vacations for a few years...
 
Frogfish tank! Peacock mantis is cool aswell.

As for fish stocking I am thinking
Wartskin angler
Dwarf lionfish
Snowflake eel
Cockatoo waspfish
And once the tank has been setup and stable for a while maybe a weedy scorpion.

I will not be adding all of these, only a select few. Also, I will be heavily overskimming this system.
 
Excellent idea! I always love predator tanks but can never bring myself to converting. Definitely get the angler those are super cool, and I agree with the skimming comment. I am sold, let us know how it progresses!
 
As for fish stocking I am thinking
Wartskin angler
Dwarf lionfish
Snowflake eel
Cockatoo waspfish
And once the tank has been setup and stable for a while maybe a weedy scorpion.

I will not be adding all of these, only a select few. Also, I will be heavily overskimming this system.


Damn reading the list made me drool. I'll be first in line to see the tank take shape if you decide to go with this kind of specimen. Being an 'angler' guy, I would pay to see a weedy scorpion in a tank!

There you go, interesting tank stock list:

Warty frogfish
Cockatoo (or maybe a red rooster) waspfish
Weedy scorpionfish
Spotted handfish
Red lip batfish
Flying gurnard
Orange toadfish

How ironic would that be? A fish tank with no 'swimming' fishies. No 'pretty' corals, achieve a murky but pleasing (not making a lot of sense i know , just go with it lol) to the eyes kinda environment. Call it the "Oddball convention" and open it for public viewing ($$)


If only... :spin2::spin3:
 
Oh that's too bad. Weird that something that never leaves its burrow would care how big the tank is :(

It is more about the sand bed with garden eels. They really need 8-12" of sand to live comfortable as they get long and need to dig an appropriate vertical hole.

Then they need the right flow to keep food moving by them all the time.
 
Damn reading the list made me drool. I'll be first in line to see the tank take shape if you decide to go with this kind of specimen. Being an 'angler' guy, I would pay to see a weedy scorpion in a tank!

There you go, interesting tank stock list:

Warty frogfish
Cockatoo (or maybe a red rooster) waspfish
Weedy scorpionfish
Spotted handfish
Red lip batfish
Flying gurnard
Orange toadfish

How ironic would that be? A fish tank with no 'swimming' fishies. No 'pretty' corals, achieve a murky but pleasing (not making a lot of sense i know , just go with it lol) to the eyes kinda environment. Call it the "Oddball convention" and open it for public viewing ($$)


If only... :spin2::spin3:


I am still in the very early planning stages of this tank. I am still in the process of setting up my new 120 reef and am planning this as a 'side project'. For now I am doing tons of research and am trying to locate stores in my area that would carry these fish. Diver's den gets predator fish in regularly so I will be browsing there as well. Diver's den also has an NPS section.
For now... Do you think that a 40b would be fine for all of those fish? If not I might be able to find some more room.
Thanks!
 
I am still in the very early planning stages of this tank. I am still in the process of setting up my new 120 reef and am planning this as a 'side project'. For now I am doing tons of research and am trying to locate stores in my area that would carry these fish. Diver's den gets predator fish in regularly so I will be browsing there as well. Diver's den also has an NPS section.
For now... Do you think that a 40b would be fine for all of those fish? If not I might be able to find some more room.
Thanks!


The fish I listed? It would require atleast a very veeeery spacious 'seabed' to achive peace and order. Anyways nevermind my fantasy of the oddball convention lol.

About the list you posted tho, have you seen a green wolf eel? Snowflakes are nice, also called as 'eel blennies' it nicely fits the oddball category. It's basically a blenny in an eel's body, and its NEITHER eel or blenny. Weirdest dottyback fish ever.

I don't wan't to discourage you with the anglers by any means, but I will point out some issues you might face. I've been lucky to own)observe/study various frogs, scorps and wasps(only the roosters) up close and personal, a friend of mine back home (Philippines) had easy access to acquire marine life local to the Phils.

Anyways, just clarifying that i'm not an expert by any means, just passing down info. from local experts and a bit of personal exp.

Warty Frogfish

- Well taught choice, relatively smaller (close to 6in) compared to most froggies.

-Hit or miss on compatibility with other 'anglers', despite being ambush predators expect territorial disputes against other 'anglers' or frogs.

-An an old timer used to say "Either a single frog or a mated pair, any other fish small enough to fit in a 60g is dinner", I have heard stories like , a volitans swallowed by a slighty smaller hairy frogfish, both died.

-And I noticed froggies have this habit of getting too close to scorps, haven't seen one actually get stinged , trust me, frogs dont care about venomous spines, if they are of same size expect the frog to take a chance and swallow the other. Lol

scorpion/waspfish hmm only know about the 'leaf/y' kind of scorp. And anyone correct me if i'm wrong, wasps are 'leaf/y' scorps aswell right?

Anyways, haven't encountered any scorp(specially when 'settled' in a tank) attempting to eat anything as big as itself as long as its well fed of course, frogs on the other hand...crazy appetite, voracious, fearless :lolspin:

My LFS had a frog/scorp of smaller variety on a long tank, both predators naturally 'pick' a spot/side, real estate is crucial so long tanks solve any territorial issue.

Adding a weedy scorp (really awesome choice) later on is tricky. Get the biggest weedy scorpion available, sure they are a lot bigger than wartys , but just to be sure.

I havent even touched on the lionfish, but i'll end it here:

Scorpionfishes (in general) are not aggresive and actually like to chill most of the time. Scorps patiently lie motionless in one spot and when prey is close enough it literally 'vacuums' its victims in a blink of an eye. Never saw one swim tho, most of the species I saw 'walked' slooowly in short distances.

Frogfish (In general) are huge PITA for its tankmates. Wartys have appealing colors, entertaining little bastards lol. The species I encountered walked but also 'swam in bursts'. I noticed that most of them would even stalk unsuspecting prey if given the chance. Again, Froggies are aggressive and doesn't tolerate any of its own kind. Despite all these things frogfish have amusing character.

Lastly, environment set up is crucial. Scorpions need to able to blend easily so substrate, rockwork and even coral choice should cater to them more imo. Frogfish dont make much of an effort to 'hide' its body but they stay still , camouflaged, but prefer using their lures most of the time.


There we go. Apologies for such a lenghty insight. I just wrote everything I could think of atm and didn't proofread the whole thing lol. And just to remind you, everything you read is based from my personal exp. , research and knowledge shared by awesome people that has been working/keeping these group of oddballs. I actually enjoyed writing this.
 
The fish I listed? It would require atleast a very veeeery spacious 'seabed' to achive peace and order. Anyways nevermind my fantasy of the oddball convention lol.

About the list you posted tho, have you seen a green wolf eel? Snowflakes are nice, also called as 'eel blennies' it nicely fits the oddball category. It's basically a blenny in an eel's body, and its NEITHER eel or blenny. Weirdest dottyback fish ever.

I don't wan't to discourage you with the anglers by any means, but I will point out some issues you might face. I've been lucky to own)observe/study various frogs, scorps and wasps(only the roosters) up close and personal, a friend of mine back home (Philippines) had easy access to acquire marine life local to the Phils.

Anyways, just clarifying that i'm not an expert by any means, just passing down info. from local experts and a bit of personal exp.

Warty Frogfish

- Well taught choice, relatively smaller (close to 6in) compared to most froggies.

-Hit or miss on compatibility with other 'anglers', despite being ambush predators expect territorial disputes against other 'anglers' or frogs.

-An an old timer used to say "Either a single frog or a mated pair, any other fish small enough to fit in a 60g is dinner", I have heard stories like , a volitans swallowed by a slighty smaller hairy frogfish, both died.

-And I noticed froggies have this habit of getting too close to scorps, haven't seen one actually get stinged , trust me, frogs dont care about venomous spines, if they are of same size expect the frog to take a chance and swallow the other. Lol

scorpion/waspfish hmm only know about the 'leaf/y' kind of scorp. And anyone correct me if i'm wrong, wasps are 'leaf/y' scorps aswell right?

Anyways, haven't encountered any scorp(specially when 'settled' in a tank) attempting to eat anything as big as itself as long as its well fed of course, frogs on the other hand...crazy appetite, voracious, fearless :lolspin:

My LFS had a frog/scorp of smaller variety on a long tank, both predators naturally 'pick' a spot/side, real estate is crucial so long tanks solve any territorial issue.

Adding a weedy scorp (really awesome choice) later on is tricky. Get the biggest weedy scorpion available, sure they are a lot bigger than wartys , but just to be sure.

I havent even touched on the lionfish, but i'll end it here:

Scorpionfishes (in general) are not aggresive and actually like to chill most of the time. Scorps patiently lie motionless in one spot and when prey is close enough it literally 'vacuums' its victims in a blink of an eye. Never saw one swim tho, most of the species I saw 'walked' slooowly in short distances.

Frogfish (In general) are huge PITA for its tankmates. Wartys have appealing colors, entertaining little bastards lol. The species I encountered walked but also 'swam in bursts'. I noticed that most of them would even stalk unsuspecting prey if given the chance. Again, Froggies are aggressive and doesn't tolerate any of its own kind. Despite all these things frogfish have amusing character.

Lastly, environment set up is crucial. Scorpions need to able to blend easily so substrate, rockwork and even coral choice should cater to them more imo. Frogfish dont make much of an effort to 'hide' its body but they stay still , camouflaged, but prefer using their lures most of the time.


There we go. Apologies for such a lenghty insight. I just wrote everything I could think of atm and didn't proofread the whole thing lol. And just to remind you, everything you read is based from my personal exp. , research and knowledge shared by awesome people that has been working/keeping these group of oddballs. I actually enjoyed writing this.

Wow. Much thanks for this very informative write-up.
I have recently aquired a Reef octopus HOB for my current temporary setup. I will probably be using this on the future tank. I do have a sump that I can use though...
 
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