The people working for the corporations are not horrible people. The situation is horrible. It's this whole WalMart mentality where everything must be better if it is run by a bigger organization. It's the whole attempt to take the variables out of the production chain. If we know that we are guaranteed a predictable supply of pork, we can plan ahead and know what the five year and ten year prices for pork will be. When the private farmer was involved, the supply varied with the demand. Big business! And now the polar ice caps are melting. Crap!
Iowa water among nations most polluted
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reefcrazy00246
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OK, I was kind of wondering the exact numbers. Figured somebody might know.
I understand.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7048206#post7048206 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by got2lb
I'm not a big fan of them either. In fact we were looking to build a house on some ground my inlaws own. And withing the last 2 years their are now 6 buildings within a 1/2 mile of where we were planning on building. The people that own them are planning on putting up 3 more within the next 5 years. Also they just built a 1000 head dairy setup 1.5 miles down the road from the hog site.
That sux. The worst part about this(other than the major stink), and probably one of the most irritating things to me about this, is that once one of these things is put in, the value of your home drops dramatically. I figure the place I live now(about 4 acres) is worth about $100,000. A new confinement building, its worth oh, off the top of my head, at least $25,000 less. Nobody wants to buy a new home with 4,000 pigs for their neighbors.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7048206#post7048206 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by got2lb
It eventually will come down to the point where the people that own the sites will have to pay HUGE dollars to get rid of the manure if enough people don't want the manure on their land. That's about the only way to fight them. That's what people have to do! I guarantee their will NEVER be any confinement manure on my inlaws land!
That is one of our only hopes now...that none of the nearby farmers will sign a contract for the manure. No contract, no building.
musty baby
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Thank you for saying so. I'm reading all this and my skull was about to pop. You've relieved some pressure.
JEFF SCHENSE
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Water Quality
Water Quality
When the water is tested, the results point to a number of potential causes/concerns/issues:
1.) Urban spread/spral: In my opinion urban development has gone unchecked. More and more farmland is turning into businesses and homes. Home's that treat their lawns with chemicals, and spray their home for bugs that (for the most part) run off into storm drains that eventually lead to rivers and streams.
2.) Development too close to ground water sources. Buffer strips are needed near lakes and rivers that are a quarter mile in widith or greater.
3.) Loss of wetlands. The wetlands acted as a filtration barrier to these kinds of contaminants.
4.) Farming: I would think a more effective use of hog/cattle manure would be for methane production. Methane could be burned for grain drying, building and home heating, power production, etc.. versus soaking into the ground to potentially raise nitrates in well water and aquifers.
I only touched on a few issues.
Farming is only one of the issues we face here.
Lets hope we all wake up to we, each in our own way, impact our environment.
Sincerely,
Jeff
Water Quality
When the water is tested, the results point to a number of potential causes/concerns/issues:
1.) Urban spread/spral: In my opinion urban development has gone unchecked. More and more farmland is turning into businesses and homes. Home's that treat their lawns with chemicals, and spray their home for bugs that (for the most part) run off into storm drains that eventually lead to rivers and streams.
2.) Development too close to ground water sources. Buffer strips are needed near lakes and rivers that are a quarter mile in widith or greater.
3.) Loss of wetlands. The wetlands acted as a filtration barrier to these kinds of contaminants.
4.) Farming: I would think a more effective use of hog/cattle manure would be for methane production. Methane could be burned for grain drying, building and home heating, power production, etc.. versus soaking into the ground to potentially raise nitrates in well water and aquifers.
I only touched on a few issues.
Farming is only one of the issues we face here.
Lets hope we all wake up to we, each in our own way, impact our environment.
Sincerely,
Jeff
got2lb
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Most of the confinement manure is all knifed into the ground now. If any manure is sprayed on top of the ground and it's within 500 ft. of a building (any building not just a house) it must be worked into the ground within 48 hours of being applied.
The drainage tiles are usually about 4 ft. below the ground. For obvious reasons they have to be below the frost point. When the manure is applied it is usually only knifed in about 4-6 inches. As far as that making the contaminents more acceptable to getting into the water supply. Maybe I don't really know.
got2lb
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Re: Water Quality
Re: Water Quality
I believe that they are working on using the methane that these produce for an alternative fuel source. But it's just like everything else, it all comes down to how much it's going to cost.
That's kind of what I was trying to point out earlier. Everyone always starts pointing fingers different ways. But never think about what they can do, in and around their own home to help the problems we're facing.
Re: Water Quality
I believe that they are working on using the methane that these produce for an alternative fuel source. But it's just like everything else, it all comes down to how much it's going to cost.
That's kind of what I was trying to point out earlier. Everyone always starts pointing fingers different ways. But never think about what they can do, in and around their own home to help the problems we're facing.
