Is my clam dying?

AttackDonut

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Yes I know, it's bloodly late to ask *now*..but better late than never I suppose.

I did the massive screwup of course, and bought a clam on sale.
Brown, drab, dull. Cheap.

In my 29 reef (110watt mix of 10k daylights and the blue jobs PC light, plus a dedicated 15 or 18 watt actinic) he is there in full exposure ot the light.

I think it's a squamosa as per the drab colours and massive scutes on the sides of his shell. About 4" in length.

So some months go by and I'm watching him. Seems to be normal. But taking a fresh look at him brings up several points:

Mantle extension is about 2" all around during the day. At night he's practically closed (all mantles retracted)

Massive colours start showing up, purples, blues, yellows, eye spots. All brown and drab colours gone.

Responds to my walking in the room by "clamming" up, then re-opening after some minutes go by.

Here's the parts that worry me:

He won't sit still. I've got ~2 inches of live sand stuff on the bottom (live rock bits, live sand, etc) and I stated him on the right side of the tank and everyday he moves a little more to the left. First his moouth was facing me, now it's 180 degrees in the other direction.

The little frilly bits around his mouth are extended, but his mouth is open wide, not circular, but more of an oval with all the frilly bits extended.

I fear this is "gaping" but I cannot find any pictures to determine this.

His shell has added ~3/4 of an inch to it, with new scutes appearing and very small tube worm/feather dusters around, I suppose the growth is a good indication.

His shell is open *wide*, way wide. With the mantle extension and the open shell he's probably 8" across. All the pics I have seen don't show them this wide, is this good or bad?

Levels in the tank are fine and the fish (firefish) are fine. Purple corraline algae is growing rapidly, no unwanted algae, and the 6 lined wrasse and bi-colour blenny leave him alone. The small peppermint shrimp are okay as well with him.

Only drawback to the levels if I cannot get an accurate nitrate reading. The liquid Aquarium Pharmaceuticals stuff says 20-40ppm. The Seachem test measures (as near as I can tell, the colours never seems to match up right) 2 ppm and the Aquarium Systems FasTest (SeaTest?) seems to come in the 5 ppm range.

The brown polyps seem to do okay (I think I see new growth) but the mushrooms (blue) went from huge to penny size over the course of a year. The leather died, but new growth of leather have sprouted aorund the old one, it's entirely possible it was dying when I got it (the shops around here suck) but I may have burned it with the lighting.

Right, enough with the rambling, I'm concerned with the clam, is he doing fine or do I need to help him out somewhat?

Skimmer, RO water changes, powerhead for motion and Magnum filter all on back.
 
Hey attk.

what you are decribing is a healthy clam to me the growth seem great for a clam. A pic whould be helpful. I have 3 clams under 2 * 6500k * 250 iwaski mh and 3 x 140 vho actinic and all of my clams are doing great. You really need to find out what kind of clam it is, because the different clams need different things.
 
I believe what you are describing is a healthy clam doing its best to survive under PC lighting. I have a Maxima in my 29 gal that is enjoying 165w of PC lighting each day. Click on the little red house above this post to see my site with pictures of the clam. Let me know if yours looks like mine.

There are several pictures, so be sure to scroll way way down.
 
>>I believe what you are describing is a healthy clam doing its best to survive under PC lighting<<

I see, so I should add more lighting or change to MH? The healthy bit is re-assuring, but this sentence isn't. Clarify please?
 
It is pretty much a given that Maximas need tons of light, and MH is the way to go. The only reason I bought one is because it was all the had left at MACNA last year, when I attended. The Derasas were H-U-G-E and there was no way it would fit in my 29g.

So I'm thinking that a clam in 110w of light is pretty weak. Even though PCs are more intense than VHO, I can't stand up and say that PCs are sufficient to keep clams. I simply don't have the experience with them, plus I've not read any success stories without MH.
 
Gotcha

Gotcha

I had read in several places that the PC was acceptable for the Squamys as they were less intense-light demanding.

But as par for the course in a hobby that is more art than science, my answers were all over the map.

My guess was that 135 watts in a 29 bow front was okay. I may have to try to bump that up more...
 
I bet that clam would respond nicely to a 150w DE halide. Also, are you dosing the tank with any sort of live phytoplankton?
 
no to dosing

no to dosing

I read that if you feed on a regular basis the fish, the clams dind't need it.

Was that article (found in multiple places) incorrect? If so, what do I need and how to I feed? By tube right to the clam or generally in the tank?
 
Pc lighting

Pc lighting

A derasa I had for almost 3 years under 220watts of pc lighting. It is getting hugh. Is this the look of a clam striving to survive? Does the mantle stay open wider in a tank with less light to capture more of it?
 
AttackDonut -

Both of my Croceas look just like the pic in your link to the Coral Dynamics site. Whether it is normal I don't know, but mine are growing and have done this since I got them.

Not sure that lighting is the issue. My clams are under 2 400W Iwasakis (in a 90g tank - 18" deep).

I've never fed mine directly, due in part to the fact that my canopy makes getting into the tank difficult. I do add DT's when I feed the tank though.

TrevDog
 
In my experience PCs are just no enough to keep most clams happy. I have read before that mantle over extension is a sign of insufficient light. My .02
 
Sorry I cant remember where I read it bu I am pretty sure it was a post on this board. I have also read that the book by Daniel Knop is amust have.
 
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