Is there something wrong with my fish?

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ocean.mirage

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I have a 8 week old tank with Cured live rock in it and most standard equip. . I have a lawnmower, 2 tomatoe clowns, and a anthias in the tank. I have had them for 2 weeks.

I noticed today that the clowns skin on their facial area is bubbly/strange looking, and my Anthias has small (super small, barely noticable) white flecks all over it, including on its eyes. I have seen a lot of Ich in the LFS's, and it does not look like Ich.

Is there something wrong with my fish?
 
come to think of it, I was taking a very close look at my tank, and I noticed that there are tiny white particles everywhere in the water, and I looked at them with a magnifying glass, and I swear that they look like a flatworm, except they have a tail and they are white, not pink.
 
To many answers. The lawn mower may starve as they feed on algea nd your tanks to new for mature algea growth.
After cycle you need to add some cuc and wait then add a fish or coral then wait and add more CUC and repeat slowly.All while monitoring water readings.
Then i dont see any powerheads listed , do you have any?

Many conditions will always be around and ready to show from ick to algea. When conditions are right or stock overstressed it will show and then its to late. If your not going to QT then atleast slowdown on lenght inbetween addtitions to monitor .

Also pls research more.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/startinganaquarium/tp/topmistakes.htm
 
What?
I am trying to make sense of that reply. As what feeds on the algae?
The tank is new, so i figured that a QT makes no sense, since there was no pre existing livestock that I would be worried about contaminating.

I have a 90 Gallon tank, started with live sand, with 100lbs of cured LR, that was in it for 6 weeks before I added a clean up crew.
I have a 20 Gallon sump with a euro reef 135 skimmer, I have 2 2-250 watt MH with 4 - 4' actinic T5 buls that are on for 8 hour each day right now.
I have a sequence snapper pump as a return pushing 2500gph an hour and I have a fluval 405 with carbon it it, and 2 vortech wireless pumps pushing 5000gph.

I have
2 serpent starfish
2 fire shrimp,
60 crabs,
55 snails
and the fish mentioned above.

All my water readings are good, there has been no ammonia, Nitrates or nitrites that a test could detect for 3-4 weeks.

Temp=81
alk=14
Calcium=460
SG=1.0245-1.025
ph=8.2

Does anyone know what the tiny whtite critters are?
 
Okay, I think the tiny white things are copepods, but I have never seen them so small, and I have never seen so many, and it does not explain why there would be tiny white specks on my Anthias, or why my clownfish faces are bubbly.

My lawnmower appears to have plenty of food, and if he runs out I will supplement.

I REALIZE that QT is a good idea. Let me explain why I did not. I have a 30 Gallon tank full of livestock and Coral that I plan on transfering to the large tank, Then I could use my old small tank as a QT from here on out. And it would be an awesome QT tank as it has great flow, lighting, filtration and very mature water params. I put fish in the large tank to get it going, I did not want damsels in there that I will never be able to catch later, So I put some nice fish in it that I would like to keep longterm.

However none of this, changes the fact that I have a problem that I need help identifying now. Does anyone know what might be wrong with my fish?
 
Ammonia spike. Nitrate, nitrite problems. Stress. your tank despite being started out in the proven method is new. which means it may not have the ability to handle the bioload thrown at it. I would say hold off and let it be it will level I would imagine.
 
This tank is just too young for this bio load IMO. Also, I just don't see how there could be enough algae in the tank for the LMB. Go get some sinking algae pellets and feed that fish, it's most likely starving. Also, soak your fish food in garlic; it will make the food more attractive to them and some think it enhances their immune system as well. If you have an algae bloom in the water a UV will clear that up right quick!
 
It sounds like an external fish parasite---a pic would help immensely. If that is the case, you would have to set up a QT, FW dip fish, and let DT go fallow.
No one can really know anything w/ out a good photograph of the affected fish----sorry. And I don't believe all that "too much too fast" bs that is being thrown around. 4 fish in a 90g, alive for 2 weeks??----they would have died w/ in 3-4 days max under that hypothesis.
 
it seems suprising that there would already be so many 'pods in the tank. that tank is really young to have somany, thatt you can see them all over in the water column. if they are infact pods they would be unrelated to the white spots on the fish. i dont know, i ve got more questions then answers on this one with out pics.
 
pics is difficult, I will have to find a camera, in the meantime I guess I will do a water change every second or third day. Exactly how do you do a freshwater dip. I have never done one, cause I am scaredof hurting the fish.
 
I have some saliert flatworm exit, Is it effective at all against parasites? I know, it seems crazy that I have that many copepods, but then again, the tank was start with 70lbs of Carib Sea, live sand, and 100lbs of live rock that was completely cured and only had to do a 4 hour commute to my house.
 
ocean.mirage, if your fish have a disease for example ick you will have quarentine them either in a different tank or remove your nicely newly cured rock from the tank and put the live rock into a completely seperate tank. either way you need to get the fish away from the live rock to properly treat the fish. the reason why they are stressing the need for a seperate tank for quarentine is because if the fish need to be treated with copper to rid them of ick the copper will harm your live rock and it will pretty much be useless. anything you might add as far as corals to the tank later will die if placed on the contaminated rock that absorbed the copper. copper is bad for corals and the rock will leach it for a long time before it will be safe again if ever. i know this sounds like alot to absorb when your in a rush for help but trust me i have been threw it before. i escaped for a year without a qt tank until i put a pretty new fish in my main tank and two weeks later it came down with ick and i had to run out and purchase a qt tank but at the time it was too late and i had to eventually remove the rest of my fish into the qt tank when i noticed my cromis had one dot on it too.. all it took was one fish to contaminate a whole tank. now i have to worry about my mandarien dragonet because she is the only thing i couldnt remove from the main tank for worry she would starve to death. this i am going threw atm and i am watching her like a hawk for signs of ick.. and prey the next few weeks hurry by.. so go and get you a rubbermaid container and remove the rock if your not going to remove the fish. hope this helps some :D
 
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