So if I have 2 buckets, 2 heaters, 2 thermometers, and air stones I have all the right equipment? I set both buckets up with new saltwater, add the heaters, thermometers, and air stones in. Once at the right temp I can introduce the 2 clowns into the first bucket. Right on 72 hours after introduced into first bucket, get the fish in a plastic cup, drain as much water as I can ( or all of it) then drop the the fish into the second bucket. I then drain the bucket, clean the bucket, heater, and thermometer with some bleach spray and let dry for at least 24 hours. Throw away the air stones. I then set up the first bucket with new water, bleached and dried equipment. After the fish are in the second bucket for exactly 72 hours, I grab the fish in a NEW plastic cup, transfer as little water, if not all water, and drop the fish back into the first bucket. Drain, clean, and dry the second bucket and equipment and get ready for next transfer. After 72 hours I get the fish and put them into the second bucket. I do a total of 4 transfers 1-2 from 2-1 from 1-2 from 2-1. I start on the first bucket and end on the first bucket. After the 4 transfers, I put the fish in permanent quarantine tank and watch for 1 month. IS THIS THE CORRECT WAY?! Sorry I'm weird and have to write everything out, instead of seeing "repeat, repeat, repeat".
Is this the correct way for the tank transfer method?
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Deinonych
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72 hours is the minimum period for trophonts (feeding stage) to fall off the fish, encyst and release theronts (swimming stage). So, each transfer period should not exceed 72 hours to ensure there are no more theronts to reinfect the fish. After the second or third transfer, there should be no more trophonts on the fish. The fourth transfer is simply a security measure. Lots more information can be found here: www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1996525
The time of day is not really critical as long as you do not exceed 72 hours between transfers. I prefer mornings before lights on because of work commitments, and the fish are easier to catch (not fully awake and active yet).
The time of day is not really critical as long as you do not exceed 72 hours between transfers. I prefer mornings before lights on because of work commitments, and the fish are easier to catch (not fully awake and active yet).
ThisCityIsDead
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I always thought it had to be daily(24 hrs) not 72hrs. This seems so much easier than what I thought.
Is it safe to do this, and then place the fish in a low dose of copper, say .15, after they complete the tank transfer method?
Also, you mention there should be at least 4 tank transfers, does that mean this treatment goes on for 12 days total, since they need to be transferred every 72hrs.
Is it safe to do this, and then place the fish in a low dose of copper, say .15, after they complete the tank transfer method?
Also, you mention there should be at least 4 tank transfers, does that mean this treatment goes on for 12 days total, since they need to be transferred every 72hrs.
No, that is not safe. While tank transfer eliminates ich, various other parasites can be masked by a non-therapeutic dose of copper and those are much worse than ich. The water after tank transfer that is used for the additional observation should have no copper.
Deinonych
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Correct. The sequence is as follows:
Day 1: Initial transfer into tank #1
Day 4: Transfer to tank #2
Day 7: Transfer to tank #1
Day 10: Transfer to tank #2
Day 13: Transfer to QT for observation, and done.
ThisCityIsDead
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Will it be safe to use a tank that was treated with copper without adding any of the actual copper medication? Or, will I have to sanitize the tank?
ThisCityIsDead
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Also, the times I have quarantined I did not use light other than the lights from the room.
I also have my permanent qt tank that Iv used copper with. Do I just sanitize with bleach and clean out and let dry to get the copper out? After the transfer method I plan to put them in that tank to sit while the dt fallows.
Also, how do I get the qt ready for fish? Do I just add salt and water, with a heater and air pump? Do I need to cycle the tank or just keep up with water changes to keep parameters down?
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Also, how do I get the qt ready for fish? Do I just add salt and water, with a heater and air pump? Do I need to cycle the tank or just keep up with water changes to keep parameters down?
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Same question here, have a tank that was used for copper, how do we get that copper out?
Add Prime on day 2 of each cycle.
I know, but I have another tank for the fish after the transfer method. So 2 buckets for TTM and then a separate qt tank for when the fish are finished with the TTM. How do I get this tank ready for fish AFTER the TTM? I cannot use or seed from the main tank due to I have ick and I don't want to transfer over ick to my clean and healthy fish. Do I just cycle my qt how I cycled my main tank? ?????
Spar
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There are plenty of bacteria-in-a-bottle products (including Seachem Stability, which is what I use in those situations) that will get your tank seeded quickly. Your best bet would be to start that process a good week or so prior to moving the post-TTM'ed fish over. You can feed the fishless tank fish food to keep the added bacteria happy.
You will then need/want to keep a close eye on ammonia levels through daily testing until you get comfortable with the impact of having increased your bioload. Seachem makes a very handy ammonia alert badge that suction cups to the glass that will give you a constant reading... I personally recommend still checking with an API/similar testkit for a little bit on top of that, but will help with your sanity for sure.
Re: using a tank that used copper previously. you will be fine just rinsing it out and using it. just don't reuse any sand or live rock that happened to have been exposed to the copper.
You will then need/want to keep a close eye on ammonia levels through daily testing until you get comfortable with the impact of having increased your bioload. Seachem makes a very handy ammonia alert badge that suction cups to the glass that will give you a constant reading... I personally recommend still checking with an API/similar testkit for a little bit on top of that, but will help with your sanity for sure.
Re: using a tank that used copper previously. you will be fine just rinsing it out and using it. just don't reuse any sand or live rock that happened to have been exposed to the copper.
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