shifty51008
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How often do you clean the pump? Ive noticed i have to clean mine about every month or it will do that
Jebao WP25 Information
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Sacohen
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Are you using the stock controller or is your Apex controlling it.
I noticed the Apex in the signature and you said that they were running the same program, both of these lead me to think you are controlling it from the Apex.
I have had the same problem and it is because the pump is running to slow.
My WP-40 will not go below 20% without locking up and my WP-25 will not go below 30% while being controlled by my Reef Angel.
If they are being controlled by the Apex try increasing the speed of the pump in the programming and that should help.
SimonSKL
New member
Yes, you can cut it. You can also bend the wire so the sensor can face the front instead of the side in case the light comes directly from the front of the controller. Just cut the length accordingly.
rrasco
Active member
Are you still running yours on the RA? What profiles are working for you?
Sacohen
New member
Yes. I'm still using the RA to run them.
Right now I'm using the Else Mode that cosmith71 created. It works good, but I just have to keep the lower limits above 30%.
lnevo created some code for someone else that will randomly cycle through all the modes once per day or after a re-boot, but I haven't put that in yet. I'm trying to straighten out some other issues first.
I think all the profiles work you just need to be aware of the lower limit of the pump. Like I said the WP-40 will not work below 20% and the WP-25 will not work below 30%, so since they are both running off the Else mode I have it set to 50% with a 20% variable above and below, so it will run from 30% to 70%.
txaggie09
New member
Thanks Sacohen, I am running them off of my Apex. I will take out my lower speed profiles and see if it helps. That had crossed my mind but i figured both pumps would stop if it got too low. Either way ill try it and see what happens. Thanks!
Sacohen
New member
Are they both WP-25's?
Theoretically they should both stop, but I have seen that there seems to be a lower limit difference among the same pumps.
My 25 will not go below 30%, but I've seen other people that have theirs going to 20% and other's can't go below 40%. There is one on the RA forum that won't go below 50%, but he is trying to running off of one of the ATO ports. Which can be done, but there seems to be some issue, they are trying to work out.
Theoretically they should both stop, but I have seen that there seems to be a lower limit difference among the same pumps.
My 25 will not go below 30%, but I've seen other people that have theirs going to 20% and other's can't go below 40%. There is one on the RA forum that won't go below 50%, but he is trying to running off of one of the ATO ports. Which can be done, but there seems to be some issue, they are trying to work out.
FlyPenFly
SPS Killer
Here's the post on how to with the battery.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21740285&postcount=1398
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21740285&postcount=1398
I am running mine off an Apex and have profiles set up for
1) night 25% to 35% every 10 sec
2) Day R and L which cycle from 40-100% (anti)synced up to create a nice wave
3) 0-50wave this cycles from 0-50% creating waves but both are on/off at same time.
4) 0-75wave same but 0-75% waves.
In the beginning one of mine would be randomly off in the mornings, but now they work flawlessly and I did not change anything.
1) night 25% to 35% every 10 sec
2) Day R and L which cycle from 40-100% (anti)synced up to create a nice wave
3) 0-50wave this cycles from 0-50% creating waves but both are on/off at same time.
4) 0-75wave same but 0-75% waves.
In the beginning one of mine would be randomly off in the mornings, but now they work flawlessly and I did not change anything.
I've not seen how much current the pump draws when run at 12volts, but for example assuming it draws 1 amp at 12 volts it will last up to 35 hours on the battery you linked to. Probably somewhat less and decreasing with time as the battery ages. but you could safely assume at least a day of operation in this scenario with continuous operation.
I'ts only a problem if the controller tells the pump to run at lets say 30% power. which would be fine under 24 volt operation, but off of 12 volts there could be the possibility that it will not start up, and the pump will start to heat up. Since it's sitting in water it will probably not burn up but its not good to be powered if it is not spinning.
My battery backup plan is to use an arduino (to replace the controller as well) to run it more like the vortech's in power save mode, where it just runs full throttle at 12 volts for a short time, then turns off for a while and repeats the process until power is restored or the battery is depleted.
Would the HOSSEN® NEW 6V-90V 15A DC Motor Pump Speed Controller' or the 12V-40V 10A PWM DC Motor Speed Controller w/ Knob work to control the wp25 speed?
http://www.amazon.com/HOSSEN®-6V-90V-Motor-Speed-Controller/dp/B00CW82ZPG/ref=pd_sim_indust_4
http://www.amazon.com/HOSSEN®-6V-90V-Motor-Speed-Controller/dp/B00CW82ZPG/ref=pd_sim_indust_4
Where would I splice it in? Between the power supply and the controller or between the controller and the pump?
Thank you
http://www.amazon.com/HOSSEN®-6V-90V-Motor-Speed-Controller/dp/B00CW82ZPG/ref=pd_sim_indust_4
http://www.amazon.com/HOSSEN®-6V-90V-Motor-Speed-Controller/dp/B00CW82ZPG/ref=pd_sim_indust_4
Where would I splice it in? Between the power supply and the controller or between the controller and the pump?
Thank you
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
why would you want to use those instead of the led dimmer switch that is cheaper and already has the correct plug for the controller, no splicing needed.
rrasco
Active member
I'm aware of the limits. I was running mine on an RA until about a week or two ago. I think you were the one I've had some conversations with about this via PM earlier this year. I've actually had my WP25 down to about 18% and they would still start. The problem I had was the 'reef crest' profile I was running would cause the pumps to stop overnight, whether it was below 30% or not. I don't really like the RA's reefcrest mode though, it doesn't work like else or echotech's reefcrest. The short pulse worked fine for several months, but I wanted more random flow instead of just pulsing.
I'm currently running them on the Jebao controller, one on W1 and the other on Else.
I'd be interested in seeing your current code. I need to head back over to RA's site and see what's new, I've been too busy to do much to my reef the last few months so I've just ran with what was working for me.
