Jebao WP25 Information

Got mine today, old controller, its rather noisey!!!

Although cant seem to hear it to well on video. I can clearly hear it on other side of room even with TV on and toddler playing away.

My WP40 was loud at the beginning, but after 1-2 weeks it's completely silent.

You can also try reseating the impeller bushings and moving it 2-3 inches away from any corner.
 
Just got 2x WP25 from FS yesterday.
Came with the old controller, but after setting them up on my 120g I don't think I need to cut the speed down on them.

I would like to control them using my APEX controller, though.
I've searched the forums but can't find the information I'm looking for.

Those who are using your APEX to control the WP25's .... what exactly do I need to do this?

The information you need is here:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2283594

And here is a post on another forum to use PWM dimmers to keep the modes of the controller and control power (speed) with the APEX:

For Neptune Apex:

You will need:

A Reef Angel Jebao Cable. That's it. No need for the Jebao controller box anymore.
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or

0-10v analog input PWM module:
Search ebay for LED DIMMER PWM 10 A.12VDC-24 VDC; POT. or 0-10V control
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Cat5e ethernet cord

Wire nuts
or
Solder and heat shrink tubing

(optional) Solid core wires (or wires that can handle up to 6A) stevesleds.com has some.

Directions:

Unscrew the controller casing

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24- is blue
24+ is reddish brown
VA is green yellow and remains untouched

Cut the blue and red wire about halfway down, so you have enough wire connected to the controller still, and some down the cord to the pump. You can also desolder the wires from the 24+ and 24- points, but this is more difficult.

Connect solid core wire to extend the wire length with wire nuts, solder, or some way to connect the wires securely. This makes it easier to work with.

The 0-10v PWM module terminals look like this -+ +-

The first left side -(blue) and +(red) go to the pump wires

The next right side +(red) -(blue) are the ones connected to the controller internals 24+ and 24- points

For the wire to connect to the apex VDM ports, you can buy the Neptune cable ~$15, or do the following.

Cut one end off a Cat 5e ethernet cord.

Keep the following wires:
orange/white wire (positive) - orange wire (negative)
blue/white wire (positive) - green wire (negative)

When plugged into the first VDM port, blue/white wire, green wire is V1, oranges are V2
Second port, blue white green is V3, oranges V4

On the 0-10v module for V1, connect blue/white to + on 0-10v control input terminal , green to - control.

Put the controller back together in a project box, do a really good job with electrical tape taping the loose box together, or fit it all inside somehow and screw back together.

Create profiles to control the pump. The original controller mode are kept, so you can use the Apex to set intensity.

The easiest profiles are ramping profiles throughout the day, like this:

Outlet - Base_Var1 (for V1)

Set PM-Else
If Time 07:00 to 10:00 Then AM-Else
If Time 10:01 to 21:00 Then Day-Else
If Time 21:01 to 23:00 Then PM-Else
If FeedA 000 Then Feed

(feed would be a profile to allow the feed mode)

Profile name: AM-Else

Control type: Ramp

Ramp time (minutes): 1

Start Intensity: 60
End Intensity: 60

(this makes the pump run at 60% power, but if you use the ELSE mode on the controller, it simulates reef crest mode on a vortech, but at 60% overall power)

A midday profile can be made to use a higher intensity, and the PM one can use a lower one.

This barely touches on what can be programmed. If you set the pump on H1 (full power), you can create your own wave mode, like this (borrowed from Kenargo's Tunze profiles)

Profile name: Day Rt
Type: pump
Minimum Intensity: 30
Maximum Intensity: 100
Sync: Enabled
Divide-by 10: Enabled
Initial off time: 4
On time: 8
Off time: 0

Profile name: Day Lt
Type: pump
Minimum Intensity: 30
Maximum Intensity: 100
Sync: Enabled
Divide-by 10: Enabled
Initial off time: 0
On time: 8
Off time: 4

(This creates a huge syncronized wave between two pumps)

You can also use the Weather profiles to control the pump. The Vortech profiles do not work.

If anyone can create other profiles, share!
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Just checked bearing housing and pushed it all the way in, getting amazing wave but is still noisey. Going to leave it on over night see if it settles any.

Noise sounds very mechanical, like the dry side of an mp10, but if i remove impellor its silent so definetely the impellor making the noise. Hopefully it beds in rather quickly as wife wont put up with noise. May just leave it on L as thats not noisey and see if it beds in from that and goes silent.

Feeling a little bit deflated now as got rid of my MP10 due to noise.
 
Cheers guys, will have a little play around with it

How many gallons is your tank? I thought the WP25 had more power
Are you using the variable power supply? What voltage are you using?

Put the pump on the back panel, and place it 2-3 inches away from the side panel, just to see if improves the noise
 
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How many gallons is your tank? I thought the WP25 had more power
Are you using the variable power supply? What voltage are you using?

Put the pump on the back panel, and place it 2-3 inches away from the side panel, just to see if improves the noise

Its only 60 gallon cube, still waiting on my variable power supply. I know it will be quieter on less power but so many people have been saying they're silent. Even on L its louder than my Koralia 4. But if im honest they werent silent at first and are always noisey for few days after good cleaning.
 
Mine is much quieter than the controllable Tunze pumps I am using in other tanks and has been from the start, even without dimmer/speed control.
 
Just got 2x WP25 from FS yesterday.
Came with the old controller, but after setting them up on my 120g I don't think I need to cut the speed down on them.

I would like to control them using my APEX controller, though.
I've searched the forums but can't find the information I'm looking for.

Those who are using your APEX to control the WP25's .... what exactly do I need to do this?

Mine came today. Old controller, but with one on w1 for a wave and the other full blast on else, I really don't need the new controller as I don't need to dim it. It is perfect on my 75 they way they are.
 
Mine came today. Old controller, but with one on w1 for a wave and the other full blast on else, I really don't need the new controller as I don't need to dim it. It is perfect on my 75 they way they are.

Do ypu have a picture were you mounted them or a video. I oeder 2 for my 75 gallon and was going to run 1 in w1 and 1 in else.
 
Do ypu have a picture were you mounted them or a video. I oeder 2 for my 75 gallon and was going to run 1 in w1 and 1 in else.

The one on the left is attached to the overflow and is on W1. The one in the back right is on Else

After running them for a day, I now see they are too powerful. I am doing to use a dimmer on the one running else mode. I have a LED dimmer from when I had a WP40.

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lol, I was gonna ask if you had bare bottom. as I have both of mine in my 75 gal. but had to turn them both down or the sand was blowing everywhere.
 
my reef tank has 3/4" acrylic, would the WP25 magnets work?

THX

Wp-25 holds fine on my 3/4" acrylic. stays in place w/o issues. Not a super strng hold but between the suction cup and then the extra hold of the magenet outside is stays put!
 
Still waiting on mine. Should be sometime soon. Have the WP40 on several bigger tanks. Need the WP25 for a few smaller ones.
 
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