Reggae Reefer
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Is that tank being supported by three phone books underneath it?
Just bought a new setup.... Salt help.......
- Thread starter dapel
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carpetride
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Looks like shipping paper or cardboard.
Haha whoa easy there guys. First the tank position is only a temp. Secondly I've been in this similar hobby for nearly 7-8 years now, but mainly dealing with land exotic animals/reptiles/fw creatures. Nothing too serious with sw until now. I'm just following my instructions from the LFS sw specialist and everything seems to be working fine. The damsels will be added to the sw just like adding goldfish to cycle fw tanks. No biggie and easily replaceable. Oh sorry about the spelling of salinity, will note that in the future.
I just tested the salinity and it's perfect throughout the whole tank. I'm goning to bring in some water sample to the LFS and see what they think and then I'll go from there.
Dm - thanks for your help.
The rest wondering what the tank is sitting on, it's sitting on a medium/large dresser. The ends are poking out a bit tho. And yes I'm using very thin cardboard paper to keep the middle balanced.
Thanks again guys!
-Dan
I just tested the salinity and it's perfect throughout the whole tank. I'm goning to bring in some water sample to the LFS and see what they think and then I'll go from there.
Dm - thanks for your help.
The rest wondering what the tank is sitting on, it's sitting on a medium/large dresser. The ends are poking out a bit tho. And yes I'm using very thin cardboard paper to keep the middle balanced.
Thanks again guys!
-Dan
O'Coralman
In Memoriam
stop....stop....
stop....stop....
I am a semi-newbie.....Stop.....we newbies know this. Listen to these folks............dapel. You will only regret your next move. I agree the tank is not supported right. We want you to suceed, not fail and right now you are on the course to the later.......... Hey Density man! Little Ben got hold of some 1 1/2" crayfish....too bad for them..."KAPOW" Get some for Tim as he can chase them around and have fun. FWIW my Mantis are kept in Tuff boxexes that are clear(sizes vary ) and anywhere from 10 to 50 gls....CHEAP TOO. They can be had at Lowe's. I cut a square hole in the top, for the filter and they seem happy.........Steve:dance:
stop....stop....
I am a semi-newbie.....Stop.....we newbies know this. Listen to these folks............dapel. You will only regret your next move. I agree the tank is not supported right. We want you to suceed, not fail and right now you are on the course to the later.......... Hey Density man! Little Ben got hold of some 1 1/2" crayfish....too bad for them..."KAPOW" Get some for Tim as he can chase them around and have fun. FWIW my Mantis are kept in Tuff boxexes that are clear(sizes vary ) and anywhere from 10 to 50 gls....CHEAP TOO. They can be had at Lowe's. I cut a square hole in the top, for the filter and they seem happy.........Steve:dance:
overflowin
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do you plan to move the tank? you said it was a temporary location, i just wonder why not secure a more permanent spot before you start. establishing a tank and then moving it (even across the room) is a big job. unless you plan on leaving some of the water in it to save some work, but i wouldn't. could have a complete failure of the seams in the tank then your really up a creek. acrylic tanks are great, but your paper work, if you got any, should tell you the warantee will be voided if the ENTIRE bottom of the tank is not supported at all times.
please explain what is similar with marine aquaria and "dealing with land exotic animals/reptiles/fw creatures". other than the fact that all living creatures depend on water in some way and all these creatures are kept in some kind of clear box, i can't think of a single similarity.
donnie
please explain what is similar with marine aquaria and "dealing with land exotic animals/reptiles/fw creatures". other than the fact that all living creatures depend on water in some way and all these creatures are kept in some kind of clear box, i can't think of a single similarity.
donnie
Just trust me okay. I grew up working next to an aquarium since I was in middle school. Like I said it's been many many years since then and I'm still in the hobby. I am familar with the process of moving the tank so don't worry about it too much. By my experience with working with the other animals I still have experience with water animals and the likes of it. Just not an expert.
-Dan
-Dan
No attitude at all. Just normal fish stuff and some opinions.
But anyhoo I found out today I can have a fully useable tank within 48hours. Many people don't know this but they, the LFS, sells this tiny little bitty package that contains BILLIONS of microscopic bacteria. It costs some change but you can have fully usable water in 48hours. I'm deciding to let it sit for a week before testing out the water for the correct chemicals. So yeah, doing a little bit of research might be beneficial.
But anyhoo I found out today I can have a fully useable tank within 48hours. Many people don't know this but they, the LFS, sells this tiny little bitty package that contains BILLIONS of microscopic bacteria. It costs some change but you can have fully usable water in 48hours. I'm deciding to let it sit for a week before testing out the water for the correct chemicals. So yeah, doing a little bit of research might be beneficial.
Wow.... Damsels are just replaceable guys... you act like they are there for you to use and then throw away! YOU DONT NEED DAMSELS TO CYCLE YOUR TANK *******.
And this salt water specialist you are talking with probably has a reputable wealth of knowledge in a degree from f****** petco
Pathetic... I hope your tank crashes and your whole room gets filled with water which follows in a massive mildew and then you will have to run naked because your mildewly clothes are disgusting to the nearest SALTWATER Specialist and explain to him that his expert advice sucks ***....
And this salt water specialist you are talking with probably has a reputable wealth of knowledge in a degree from f****** petco
Pathetic... I hope your tank crashes and your whole room gets filled with water which follows in a massive mildew and then you will have to run naked because your mildewly clothes are disgusting to the nearest SALTWATER Specialist and explain to him that his expert advice sucks ***....
crafty_50mitchell
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Lets just let it go guys and gals, this guy (or gal? or internet troll perhaps?) Is set in his/her/trolls ways so I think its probably best just not to feed into it, such a great forum lets not make it a mess by beating our heads against a 40 gallon acrylic tank/salt mixing bucket/potential mantis chalk outline/certain damsel chalk outline/bio spira'd waste of money/...well could do this all night but I gots a girlfriend, and a mantis to feed.
Cheers, Brian
Cheers, Brian
overflowin
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well spoken brian....i say we all just ignore this thread let this thread die...and hope his pets don't, but i guess thats not all that likely.
donnie
donnie
opihi
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dapel said:
i've been sitting this one out, but this last post really got me. Dapel, if this "tiny little bitty package" actually worked, then we all would be using it.
you're new here, so i can see how you think your LFS buddies are the experts and what not. but consider that here on RC, you will find thousands of reefers who have years of experience in marine keeping, real experts with doctorate degrees in the marine sciences, LFS owners, wholesalers, distributors & aquaculturists. we are not talking out of our asses. why not be as critical of your LFS's advice as you are to the suggestions you have heard so far?
in fact, when Gonodactylus (Dr. Roy Caldwell, link), a man who has spent the last 20 years studying mantis shrimp in the wild and in captivity says STOP, maybe you should actually question why.
in the end, you're going to do whatever you think is right. i just hope for your sake (and the sake of the animals you're about to acquire) that you can benefit from the advice that everyone gives you.
Well like I said, not a whole lot of people know about this package. Shoot I forgot what it's called but it works. And I never said I'm gonna add in the mantis, just the damsels to HELP the process get along.
Man some of you internet guys are freaks. It's JUST the INTERNET, CALM YOUR ASSS DOWN for crying out loud. I agree this thread should be closed. All I asked for was help on the salinity but now has esclated into this nonsense.
If a mod sees this please close or delete this thread.
Man some of you internet guys are freaks. It's JUST the INTERNET, CALM YOUR ASSS DOWN for crying out loud. I agree this thread should be closed. All I asked for was help on the salinity but now has esclated into this nonsense.
If a mod sees this please close or delete this thread.
T-T-Trigger
Premium Member
there are no shortcuts, that's the best advice I can give. Just be patient and the results will be more in your favor.
best of luck
best of luck
DensityMan
Active member
Bacteria-in-a-bottle is not new. It is not a secret. It is a waste of money (IMO and that of many "real" experts).
ttt - agreed.
DM - I think it was called something else, but it's probably something like that. Something called "Bio.......". But that's what he said, not a lot of people know about this "new" stuff. I told him about what ALL of you guys said about giving time to cycle it, so he offered me that alternative. I didn't take it. I take his word for it since he is the sw expert in the store, tells me he built a $4k+ 40 gallon tank. Oh well............
DM - I think it was called something else, but it's probably something like that. Something called "Bio.......". But that's what he said, not a lot of people know about this "new" stuff. I told him about what ALL of you guys said about giving time to cycle it, so he offered me that alternative. I didn't take it. I take his word for it since he is the sw expert in the store, tells me he built a $4k+ 40 gallon tank. Oh well............
dapel said:
I built a gazillion dollar 2 gallon tank. Just because I said that, does that make me an expert now? Unless you've seen this $4,000 40 gallon, then don't take his word for it. He is not an expert.
I am far from an expert but my setup is a 2.5 gallon minibow for a 1.25" Mantis, 1.5" of sand and some live rock. Water movement provided by an Aquaclear mini. A 25w Marineland heater and a 10w 50/50 screw in compact fluorescent. Of course the tank will be upgraded in due time.
These people aren't kicking down your sand castle, some of them would be architects and masonmen metaphorically speaking. Take things slower and open your mind. I am most certain the S/W genius at your store doesn't have a PHD like some of the folks on this board.
The saltwater you mention that they sell at the fish store is purified filtered ocean water aka "Catalina Water" trucked in from miles off shore. There is not need for "curing" salt water, just make sure you mix it up good, unless you're using the entire container of water.
Tam
