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greenmonkey51

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I've been thinking of setting up a SW tank for a while and I may finally start. I recently received a 30g for free. I was wondering if this was is big enough to be a starter tank. Also how much do you pay for salt. The best I could find is 32$ for 160g bucket. I have a 75g open but I think the cost of water changes would be too much. If I were to go with the 75g could I go with just 50lbs of live rock to start.
 
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30 gallons is a good size tank to get your feet wet so to speak. You have come to the right place to learn.
 
I would start with the 30g and see how you like the hobby and how good your success is with it. If you get hooked, which you will, then upgrade down the road to the 75. $32 is about the average for Instant Ocean 160 gallon bucket, I'm assuming that is the kind of salt you found. 80lbs of LR would fill a 75g about half way, so 50lbs would be about 35% of the tank. You can buy base rock for cheap from online stores for cheap and seed it with LR and it will eventually become Live. Here are a couple of popular sites for base rock:

www.hirocks.com
www.reeferrocks.com
 
A 30g is a wonderful starter tank for saltwater fish, if you're uncomfortable or inexperienced. I myself em starting off with a 24g.

A 75g is another good choice. Something you'll typically notice about saltwater tanks, whether it is your first or your four hundredth, bigger is better.

The local fish stores (LFS) around here sell salt fairly cheap. 12.98 for 25gal. of Oceanic. It's is less costly when you buy in bulk, such as you did, but still for a small tank 30gal. will last you a pretty long time. For a 75gal. Not so much. 160gal. of salt should last you a long time in a 75gal. or a 30gal. Either way that's a good amount of salt.

If you decide to go with the 75gal. 50lbs. of live rock is enough. The "normal" ratio is 1lbs per 1gal. but you can fudge the number a bit, and if you want to get a full 75lbs. of rock just buy some base rock, which is significantly cheaper, and have the live rock seed it over a month and half or so.

Again, both the 30gal. and 75gal. are good for a starter. The 30gal. is a bit more risky because if something goes wrong the tank will pretty much go up, while a 75gal. can handle some mishaps here an there.

Overall, it's what you want to do and what you feel most comfortable with managing.
 
Well once I sell my black piranha, I'll have to make to decision between SW and a large pond. I have a strip light setup that I made for my 75g for plants but never used it. Its got 4 48" bulbs which come to 160wts. The tank is 36". Would this be ok. Also do you specifically need RO/DI water. I have well water which is paticulary hard but has some metals in it. Would a good metal remover be ok.
 
The water is the most important aspect of a healthy tank, with the exception of the tank itself. The better the water, the healthier the tanks inhabitants. While many people get by without using RO/DI water, they also suffer from algae blooms constantly. In this hobby there are many ways to save money but the areas where quality counts are:

1) Water quality
2) Lighting
3) Skimmer

I would not skimp in any of these areas.
 
If you can get your hands on a TDS meter, I would take a reading of your water before you decide on a tap water filter. They are really only good if your water quality isn't terrible. But if you say that your well water is very hard and has metals in it, your TDS is probably very high and a tap water filter won't do the trick.
 
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