LED and Neon for tank??

Mr Neon

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Ok,ok...been thinking about lighting lately. I read some older posts about those using a home-made LED boards to light a nano tank instead of MH or fluroescents.

Well, being I do neon glass for a livin, I got the idea that I want to maybe fabricate a lighting system entirely made out of neon glass for my nano. Now, I work with many whites in the neon color spectrum that have different temperatures as well as spectrums. I also have a nice neon blue that is close if not dead on to the actinics.

As fo LED's I see those making them having problems either with heat or the actual spectrum being diminshed in a small amount of time. Having worked in neon for over 18 years, LED is now just making waves where neon is being used, I have personally found that the white LED's are junk and performed poorly in my field. The red LED's are only close to matching a neons tube output. All other colors are not near their stated value. There are more than likley tons of LED manufactures riding the wave claiming to have the best on the market but in my business, I have yet to find just one.

Secondly, heat issues have made some of the diodes burnt out before their stated hours of use. Neon is efficent, cool operating, less wattage for more power, and can last on an industry standard of 7 to 10 years but I have neon that is 40 years old! I think neon can and will work wiht the right technical input. I want to test this idea and hopefully make a go of it. One great think about neon is that it can be custom bent to any shape to fit a wide variety of tank hoods!

What I would like to hear from those that have serious lighting equipment for the bigger tank reefs is the techical numbers of where the light needs to be for the best growth. I plan on taking this information and forwarding it to my glass manufacture to see what whites and bluse can be used to achive the right intensity and light spectrum for optimal growth of corals in a nano tank.

I did use a blue neon tube one time just to see and I was impressed with the look! But it was only a quick test...I think I can make this work...only other problem is the ballast. I plan on using an electronic ballast with a built GFI circut in case of shorts or water damage....safety first!

I need input for this project and appreciate any and all that help!!
 
As we discussed, this is a very interesting concept. Have you posted in the equipment or DIY forums? I would bet they may have some valuable input.

I am by no means an expert but the ideal wavelengths for photosynthesis is 400 to 700 nanometers . However, the other variable to keep in mind is PAR (Photosynthetically Available Radiation) which rapidly diminishes in water depth. Ideally for SPS, you want ranges of 250-500+ μE/m2. The deeper the tank, the lower the PAR will be as you reach bottom. I suspect this will be where the potential shortcomings may lie as LEDs still struggle to maintain adequate intensity to penetrate at depth. This is why Metal Halides have always been the preferred method due their punch through deeper water. T5's with reflectors have shown significant progress in this area.
 
The more info the better! No, Ihaen't posted yet in the DIY due to getting more info first. I want to be sure that the white neon I can get will be enough to continue the project. Sometimes the glass manufactures take their good old time in getting back to me with the technical info that I need. The never figured neon would be used in home aquriums so they might blow it off....well see..

I know the blue neon I used before when messing around has about 420 plus nanometers and that it lit up my 15 gal nano. As for the whites, that is going to be the test. The most intense I have now is a 8300k phospor white. I dont think neon will ever match metal halides but I also want to use a good relfector as well to intensify the neon light.

Once I get some specs on output, I will post it here and see what anyone thinks with being scientific on the numbers. The neon tubes I get come in different sizes thus they produce different outputs as well.
 
Hi Mr. Neon,

If your thinking of developing a product for sale let me know, my company can provide the production labor to assemble,test, & pack. There are some LED alternatives that might also work for aquarium lighting. Send me a PM if you are interested and we can talk off line.

Dave
 
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