Less Reef...More Fish, Need Some Input

blackcows

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Over the past 20 years I have had many saltwater tanks, started with some basic fish only tanks and moved on to a packed reef tank. During those 20 years I have made more mistakes than I care to think about. Far to many times I saw an awesome fish at the LFS and put him in one of my tanks without research or knowledge and next thing you know I was tearing apart rock work trying to get him out.

My tank is a center piece in our basement, I had a reef that was doing really well...lots of SPS, LPS, etc and lots of rock for all of that to grow on. Although I had a lot of cool stuff it took lots of time and most people were more impressed with Nemo than the beautiful acro that I had grown from a 1/2 inch frag into a beautiful colony. About a year ago I decided I wanted to move towards more fish and less corals. While most of us in the hobby love many of the details of a reef tank I think those outside that hobby are more impressed by the bright colored fish that inhabit our tanks.

My current reef has been setup for about 8 years, over that time the tank got several scratches and it was time for a fresh start so a few months ago myself, along with an employee of the LFS broke down the tank and started again. I traded in a lot of rock, corals, etc and now have an aquarium that still has rock work that extends for the length of the tank but lots more caves, swim throughs, and in general swimming area for fish. It looks awesome, I have some nice mushrooms, zoas, and a few leathers growing which should have the rocks covered in no time.

Now it is time to begin to add fish and I want to make sure I make good decisions and add fish that are interesting and compatible. I have had some awesome fish over the years, for instance I had a black cap basslet, beautiful fish but he spent his days hiding and only came out when I fed. I want fish that you don't have to look for or explain to someone why they should be impressed that I have them. I want an active, healthy, colorful tank. I have a 90 gallon tank with a healthy 40 gallon fuge that grows cheato well. I have an ASM G3 skimmer which is suggested for a 250 gallon tank. I do regular water changes and all parameters in check. In my opinion the limiting factor for adding fish for my tank will be less about bio load and more about territory.

With all of that said below is a list of fish that I currently have and some fish that I like. My tank is not covered and I prefer to leave it that way thus no wrasses on my list although I have owned several and think they are an awesome fish. I understand I won't be able to add all of the fish I have listed and am open to other suggestions....If you have read this far thank you and any input would be appreciated.

Current Fish:
2 Ocellaris Clown Fish
Yellow Tang
Flame Angel
Lawnmower Blenny
Diamond Goby

Fish I like:
Fire Fish
Purple Fire Fish
Orchid Dottyback
Fathead Anthia
Banggai Cardinal
Swalessi Basslett
High Fin Red Goby
Orange Stripe Prawn Goby
Yashi Goby
 
Hey,
I understand perfectly what you are saying with people being impressed with the fish and not the coral! I have some suggestions that might be helpful for you. The first thing I noticed was that you had a lot of the same species like 3 gobys, or something like that. I would recommend that you stay away from having too many of the same species. I've heard a lot of bad situations about the same two fish even though they aren't the exact same. I have also heard of some amazing accomplishements with the same type of fish! All i'm saying is to be very catious about them together. You probably already know all of that since you've been in the hobby for over 20 years. Also IMO I would reccomend that you keep at least 3 or more athias together since they school together. Another idea that I had for you is to get a bunch of green chromis. They will really shine in the light and they school togther, and that looks very mindblowing IMO. I have heard that they will sometimes fight untill there is only 1 left, but they are about $5 at your lfs so you dont have to worry about loseing $100 in one fish. If it were my tank I would do that!
Hope you get some good info from what I know,
Andrew
 
Current Fish:
2 Ocellaris Clown Fish
Yellow Tang
Flame Angel
Lawnmower Blenny - Possible jumper
Diamond Goby - Possible jumper

Fish I like:
Fire Fish - Suicidal
Purple Fire Fish - Suicidal
Orchid Dottyback
Fathead Anthia - Possible jumper
Banggai Cardinal
Swalessi Basslett
High Fin Red Goby
Orange Stripe Prawn Goby
Yashi Goby - Wont be seen very often in a large tank

I posted my opinons on the whole jumping thing. Other than that, I dont see too many problems.
 
Hey,
I understand perfectly what you are saying with people being impressed with the fish and not the coral! I have some suggestions that might be helpful for you. The first thing I noticed was that you had a lot of the same species like 3 gobys, or something like that. I would recommend that you stay away from having too many of the same species. I've heard a lot of bad situations about the same two fish even though they aren't the exact same. I have also heard of some amazing accomplishements with the same type of fish! All i'm saying is to be very catious about them together. You probably already know all of that since you've been in the hobby for over 20 years. Also IMO I would reccomend that you keep at least 3 or more athias together since they school together. Another idea that I had for you is to get a bunch of green chromis. They will really shine in the light and they school togther, and that looks very mindblowing IMO. I have heard that they will sometimes fight untill there is only 1 left, but they are about $5 at your lfs so you dont have to worry about loseing $100 in one fish. If it were my tank I would do that!
Hope you get some good info from what I know,
Andrew

Andrew,

Thanks for the reply, I have tried the green chromis for just the reason you suggested, they do look cool under the lights and it would be awesome to have a school but my experience has been similar to others. It doesn't matter how many you start with there is a good chance you will end up with one and I also noticed that as time went on they lost the need\want to school. Others who have seen this have suggested that schooling fish most likely feel safe in a small aquarium and therefore no longer school.

Thanks again for the reply.

Mike
 
Current Fish:
2 Ocellaris Clown Fish
Yellow Tang
Flame Angel
Lawnmower Blenny - Possible jumper
Diamond Goby - Possible jumper

Fish I like:
Fire Fish - Suicidal
Purple Fire Fish - Suicidal
Orchid Dottyback
Fathead Anthia - Possible jumper
Banggai Cardinal
Swalessi Basslett
High Fin Red Goby
Orange Stripe Prawn Goby
Yashi Goby - Wont be seen very often in a large tank

I posted my opinons on the whole jumping thing. Other than that, I dont see too many problems.

Sponger....by suicidal do you mean jumpers?
 
Sponger....by suicidal do you mean jumpers?

Yes lol. I had a firefish once. Qt him and all. Put in my tank and jumped out within the first few hours of putting him in my tank. He decided carpet surfing was a good idea. Alot of people will say they are suicidal
 
..... Although I had a lot of cool stuff it took lots of time and most people were more impressed with Nemo than the beautiful acro that I had grown from a 1/2 inch frag into a beautiful colony............
While most of us in the hobby love many of the details of a reef tank I think those outside that hobby are more impressed by the bright colored fish that inhabit our tanks............
I want fish that you don't have to look for or explain to someone why they should be impressed that I have them.

After reading thru your post I dont understand why you feel the need to have to impress anyone with your aquarium. It is true that most people would be more impressed by fish than sticks, but are you trying to impress others or are you finding satisfaction in the growth and well being of your tank?

I have an aquarium full of exotic and hard to find wrasses and while most people cant appreciate them I know the true value and hard work it takes to keep them alive and healthy. When someone recognizes some of the rarer fish in my display its an added bonus. But ultimately Im the one thats pleased with my fish or coral selection and find that everyone who visits my home finds my aquarium the center piece of attraction.

Having said all that, I would look into possibly getting a bellus angel or a multibar angel. I love angels, and think there constant movement and color add alot to an aquarium.
 
After reading thru your post I dont understand why you feel the need to have to impress anyone with your aquarium. It is true that most people would be more impressed by fish than sticks, but are you trying to impress others or are you finding satisfaction in the growth and well being of your tank?

Actual at this point I am looking for more of an impressive display, I have already had the satisfaction of growing and maintaining many corals and I just don't have the interest in that anymore. I want a tank full of color and movement.
 
For the species you like a Reef is more suitable than a fowlr setup... Another insight would be ecosystem based Reef which seems to accept higher bioload...
 
Thanks for sharing.
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