Lets talk about Vodka/sugar dosing
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graveyardworm
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Nope, Refracto, recently calibrated.
I have checked for stray electricity. Copper I havent checked for, but wouldnt that effect other inverts, including the snails currently doing well and reproducing in my tank?
Its primarily new additions that this effects, and the effect is immediate. However new coral, and crustaceans dont appear to be effected.
I'm thinking that I might quit the booze for now, do some water changes, and see if things change.
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Santoki
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I recently added 3 of those bright orange turbos and noticed the same thing. I just thought maybe I acclimated them too fast, but didn't attribute their death to v dosing. Resident snails are doing very well and growing...
I was leaning towards my mg levels.
What is your mg reading?
I was leaning towards my mg levels.
What is your mg reading?
graveyardworm
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I havent attributed the snail death to anything specific, but feel I need to start removing variables.
I didnt realize that elevated Mg levels could cause snail mortality, and there isnt much to be found with the search function on the topic. How high are we talking? My records show that on both snail addition/death occurances my Mg was at 1425 which was higher thn I genrally keep it due to a test kit misread and some extra dosing, but that level isnt terribly high as far as Mg is concerned.
I didnt realize that elevated Mg levels could cause snail mortality, and there isnt much to be found with the search function on the topic. How high are we talking? My records show that on both snail addition/death occurances my Mg was at 1425 which was higher thn I genrally keep it due to a test kit misread and some extra dosing, but that level isnt terribly high as far as Mg is concerned.
Santoki
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It's not about the high mg, but rather the shock of going into that level of mg in a short period of time.
Most lfs do not keep their snail holding tanks at 1400+ mg, as most salt mixes are low in mg.
Mine is at ~1500, but like I said, my snails have been in there since the beginning, this was the first time I added any new snails. I know many have seen lethargic behavior from snails when increasing mg levels to above NSW, and some have observed losses.
Most lfs do not keep their snail holding tanks at 1400+ mg, as most salt mixes are low in mg.
Mine is at ~1500, but like I said, my snails have been in there since the beginning, this was the first time I added any new snails. I know many have seen lethargic behavior from snails when increasing mg levels to above NSW, and some have observed losses.
graveyardworm
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Just talked to a friend of mine who runs an LFS ( not who I got the snails from ) and his take on it is that its just the time of year. Snails arent shipping well, and pimarily the ones coming in are of the colder water variety. Doesnt really explain how a snail seemingly doing well at the LFS immediately stops moving when introduced to my tank. I wish I still had some of the LFS water to test for Mg. I never had a problem in the past though, and I cant imagine LFS Mg levels are suddenly any different than they've always been. So not to keep this discussion one off topic I may just start a new one with a history and timeline and see if anyone can target my problem.
newsalt
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I'm subscribed to this thread as I dose vodka as well, but I was wondering if anyone knew what the equivalent Zeovit product is the the components of Polyp Lab's System Reef-resh.
System Reef-resh constists of 4 components:
RF-Genesis: Concentrated mixture of dormant bacteria. A custom blend of bacterial strains with concentrations of over 80 billion cells/mL. In their planktonic state, these bacteria serve as a highly nutritious food source for corals and zooplankton. More importantly, these complimentary bacterial strains form nutrient consuming biofilms.
RF-Fuel: Amino Acid enriched bacterial food source. A unique fusion of organic carbon sources enriched with amino acids. RF-Fuel is a safe but highly effective carbon-based bacterial food that will steadily improve water quality.
RF-Acids: Concentrated fusion of select amino acids. A blend of specific amino acids that our research has shown to improve coral growth and colouration. Those that inhibit coral growth have been excluded from this highly concentrated mixture.
RF-Plus: A water-stable mixture of liquid and solid coral foods that have been enriched with vitamins and minerals. Vibrant coral colouration results from regular use and is most noticeable for SPS corals.
Thanks
System Reef-resh constists of 4 components:
RF-Genesis: Concentrated mixture of dormant bacteria. A custom blend of bacterial strains with concentrations of over 80 billion cells/mL. In their planktonic state, these bacteria serve as a highly nutritious food source for corals and zooplankton. More importantly, these complimentary bacterial strains form nutrient consuming biofilms.
RF-Fuel: Amino Acid enriched bacterial food source. A unique fusion of organic carbon sources enriched with amino acids. RF-Fuel is a safe but highly effective carbon-based bacterial food that will steadily improve water quality.
RF-Acids: Concentrated fusion of select amino acids. A blend of specific amino acids that our research has shown to improve coral growth and colouration. Those that inhibit coral growth have been excluded from this highly concentrated mixture.
RF-Plus: A water-stable mixture of liquid and solid coral foods that have been enriched with vitamins and minerals. Vibrant coral colouration results from regular use and is most noticeable for SPS corals.
Thanks
newsalt
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I didn't mean to bring this thread to a screeching halt with my previous post, but I just wondered if anyone knew the answer.
Anyway, I have another question. I'm dosing 0.6ml daily of vodka on a 130g net system. I'm also dosing 4ml Zeovit Coral Snow 3x/week, 3 drops of Zeovit Coral Vitalizer 3x/week, and 2 drops of ZeoBac 2x/week. I have this brown diatom looking growth on the tank glass, overflow and powerhead that has to be cleaned every 2 to 3 days. It's not on the sand or LR. I can't figure out what's causing it. It an overdose of vodka or is it the Zeovit item?
Anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, I have another question. I'm dosing 0.6ml daily of vodka on a 130g net system. I'm also dosing 4ml Zeovit Coral Snow 3x/week, 3 drops of Zeovit Coral Vitalizer 3x/week, and 2 drops of ZeoBac 2x/week. I have this brown diatom looking growth on the tank glass, overflow and powerhead that has to be cleaned every 2 to 3 days. It's not on the sand or LR. I can't figure out what's causing it. It an overdose of vodka or is it the Zeovit item?
Anyone have any ideas?
It's a yellow clown goby. The guy is a little polyp muncher. He really beats up that brown coral but it just keeps growing. I would never get more than one for each 150g of sps tank. I'm also pretty sure my milleporas would be fuzzier, figuring my frag tank milleporas look great! But it could also be from the angel fish...
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