Lets try this No Ich stuff

[Climb16]

Okay, so i reciently had a small outbreak of Ich in my 250 which i think was brought on by a purchace of a Neon goby. My stock list is as such; 10" Scribbled angel, 6" Queen Angel, 6" Imperator angel, 6" clown trigger, 5" purple tang, 5" Threadfin butterfly, a pair of mated Gold stiped maroon clowns, 2" Dragon wrasse, Blue ribbon eel, a cleaner wrasse, neon goby and a cleaner shrimp along with some misc. leathers and mushrooms.

Now not all of my fish have got spots on them. The clown trigger and the Imperator have the worst of it with only a few spots on the others, purple tang, dragon wrasse and eel have nothing. With all that said as soon as i saw any spots at all i started soaking food in Garlic and increasing the amount of veggies. It has been 10 days from the time of the first spot and about 3 days ago it was the worst. I do not have a Qt tank large enough to treat all the fish in there so i thought i would give the No Ich Treatment a try. I started the treatment yesterday and we will see how it goes. I will keep you all posted with how it is working.

 

[RegalAngel]

Make sure you follow the directions...meaning adding every day...that's alot of No-Ich for a 250g tank! Remember none of the Ich treatments kills the parasite on the fish. It is only when the parasite hatches out and is free swimming that it can be killed. So, the No-Ich needs to be at strength during this 28-day cycle....after it no longer shows up on the fish.

 

[Climb16]

Third treatment and the spots seem to be diminishing. The fish are not asking to be cleaned as much as before. I think that there should be another bloom in the next few days so we will see how it works.

 

[Jambi40-6&2]

Is that NO X - ICH you are using? I am waging WWIII w/ ich right now. I picked up the stuff, it is 50% sodium chloride and 50% malachite green. I hope it works, I lost one of my picasso clowns and the other has it also. I was devastated when I lost the first one.

 

[Climb16]

I am using the No Ich by Fish Vet.

 

[JHemdal]

NOX-ICH is for freshwater fish only (as evidenced by the sodium chloride content).

I've used a similar product in a marine quarantine system with only marginal results...I was hoping that the malachite green component would help.

Jay

 

[Climb16]

the No Ich does not seem to be working as well as i had hoped and more spots are starting to show up on my fish, they have also started to scratch. So it is time to pull out the corals and put them in a different tank for a while, durring a Hypo treatment. I have had good luck with that in the past.

 

[RegalAngel]

the No Ich does not seem to be working as well as i had hoped and more spots are starting to show up on my fish, they have also started to scratch. So it is time to pull out the corals and put them in a different tank for a while, durring a Hypo treatment. I have had good luck with that in the past.

What is your dosing procedure with No-Ich?...Amount and how often?

For a 250g tank that is 2oz/25g or 20oz per day! And at least until the white spots are gone.
If you are doing this and you are not using carbon? then I would give it time.

 

[Climb16]

The day that i started the No Ich i turned off my skimmer and removed my carbon, i have been doing the 20oz a day and as of today there are more stops that there were a week ago

 

[RegalAngel]

The day that i started the No Ich i turned off my skimmer and removed my carbon, i have been doing the 20oz a day and as of today there are more stops that there were a week ago

Excellent! The "new" spots of Ich you are seeing are actually parasites that are growing from feeding on the fish and most likely were on the fish prior to No-Ich introduction.

Stay the course and you will fine.

 

[RegalAngel]

"How do I dose NO-ICH?

Add 2 oz. per 25 gallons (50 ml per 100 liters) of actual water every day until obvious improvement takes place and then add every other day until all fish are normal. When all fish are clean treat 3 more times every other day to ensure no further problems.

Is it okay to dose at a higher level?

In general the dosages noted above should be adhered to but there a few situations that may warrant higher dosage. These would include:

1. Dealing with a very severe or persistent infestation.

2. If you are unable to temporarily turn off your protein skimmer, UV sterilizer, ozonizer or similar filtration equipment.

3. Aquariums with very large biofiltration capacity which may speed up the degradation of the product.

In these cases you would treat on day one with 4 oz. per 25 gallons and then increase the dosage levels by 50% to 3 oz. per 25 gallons every other day until obvious improvement takes place. Once fish are clean treat 3 more times at 3 oz. per 25 gallons every other day to ensure no further problems."

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http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-10/sp/feature/index.php

"Treatment Option 8: 5-Nitroimidazoles

There is another class of products on the market that are alleged to be a reef-safe, alternative, anti-parasitic medication for Cryptocaryon irritans. The active ingredient of this category of treatments is 5-Nitroimidazoles. I have only used this type of product a few times, but never in a reef tank, so I cannot speak to those claims. I found these to be moderately successful against Cryptocaryon, although it required twice as many applications as the manufacturer stated on the instructions to affect a complete cure. My biggest complaint is how expensive it was, in particular accounting for the amount and time needed to affect a full cure. Anyone who wishes to try one of these products should perform a search on several of the online message boards to get additional feedback prior to purchasing. Based on my own experience alone, I cannot recommend them."

 

[Climb16]

Thanks for the info, i have not stopped the treatment and just ordered some more that should last me another 3 weeks. Hopefully i will not need to go longer than that. As long as my fish do not seem to get any worse I am going to try to stay the corse and continue to use the No Ich. It is a little expensive but if it works than it is worth it. I also just ordered some vitamin C with the No Ich. I have had good luck with that before, just interested what your all's thoughts on the Vitamin C is.

thanks

 

[Chris27]

Be wary of that stuff - the manufacturer won't list the ingredients of the solution, so you never really know what you're throwing in your tank. They recommend turning off the skimmer, so the only thing I can imagine is that the product is comprised of a bunch of fruit and berry extracts like other similar products.

 

[RegalAngel]

Be wary of that stuff - the manufacturer won't list the ingredients of the solution, so you never really know what you're throwing in your tank. They recommend turning off the skimmer, so the only thing I can imagine is that the product is comprised of a bunch of fruit and berry extracts like other similar products.

The manufacturer, Fish Vet does list the ingredients on the product container.

5-Nitroimidazoles

Which is what I listed above about the use of this medication.

 

[Climb16]

The fish have almost completely rid themselves of spots and are all acting same as they always have. Color is good on all of the fish and the cleaning line seems to have gone down a bit. As of right now it seems as if the product is working but we will see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

 

[kwong1998]

The fish have almost completely rid themselves of spots and are all acting same as they always have. Color is good on all of the fish and the cleaning line seems to have gone down a bit. As of right now it seems as if the product is working but we will see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

My fish have ich, I would like to try NO-ICH by FISH-VET INC. how is your fishes doing? Is this treatment really reef safe? I do have sps, lps and softies in my tank.

 

[MrTuskfish]

The fish have almost completely rid themselves of spots and are all acting same as they always have. Color is good on all of the fish and the cleaning line seems to have gone down a bit. As of right now it seems as if the product is working but we will see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

This is normal with any ich infestation; numbers of spots drop, while the next generation is maturing. I hope this works for you; but hope you have a backup plan too. BTW, the cleaners are not eating the parasite itself; its buried well out of reach. A fish can still have plenty of feeding ich parasites, especially in the gills, and not show many/any spots.

 

[Tat2demon]

This thread is almost 2 years old. His results of the ich disappearing are after 8 days. Thats the normal cycle for the parasite before it drops off. Most fish will look fine after that until the next cycle starts again in a week or 2.

So far there are no ich treatments that are reef safe and actually work.

 

[Tat2demon]

This thread is almost 2 years old. His results of the ich disappearing are after 8 days. Thats the normal cycle for the parasite before it drops off. Most fish will look fine after that until the next cycle starts again in a week or 2.

So far there are no ich treatments that are reef safe and actually work.

 

[MrTuskfish]

This thread is almost 2 years old. His results of the ich disappearing are after 8 days. Thats the normal cycle for the parasite before it drops off. Most fish will look fine after that until the next cycle starts again in a week or 2.

So far there are no ich treatments that are reef safe and actually work.

+1 (s a double-post +2?) I've got to start looking at dates.